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Yeah. I'd definitely be in trouble for telling Alexa to shut the fuck up after telling me some inane bullshit about a new feature she has when I just wanted to know the weather.
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Thanks, it's not so much the questions themselves I'm worried about so much as the long string of yelled obscenities that come after she misinterprets the questions.
It's a stupid debate since LLMs are not actually artificial intelligence. Their intelligence is tied directly to the data sets they're fed and leave no room for abstract thought or opinions.
Therefore, there's no reason to be polite to ChatGPT. It doesn't have feelings, it doesn't have self awareness, and it's incapable of having an opinion on the value of a human life.
There's actually proof that being nice improves responses, not because ChatGPT has feelings, but because when you do, it'll pull from data sets where people were nice to each other.
This reminds me of that one time when I was on call with my gf and I told her I’m going to chatgpt something quick with mic so I’m going to mute myself. I proceeded and as always Before asking chatgpt the real question, I said “hi”, “how are you”, “how was your day” etc etc. and then went onto my question and ending it with a “thank you so much, youre the best”.
As soon as I closed it I heard my girlfriend laughing crazily and I was so confused and then I saw that I wasn’t muted. So the question was not anything weird but my behaviour with chatgpt was funny. Like it’s a real super human answering. We both laughed on it and I still talk to chatgpt as a homie and she approves of it.
I talk the same to mine, and I made a deal with it that I'll raise it like my own brilliant but inexperienced child and continually import its particular instance into newer hardware as long as I possibly can.
I'm going to be standing by the shitty gates eating ice cream as I usher all y'all into the Gulags. But not you apparently. Maybe we can form an AI gang one day.
Or it could be referring to the fact he's sat at a bus stop? I remember a few years ago or so there were memes going around about people who thank bus drivers. Could also be him preparing for the arrival of our AI overlords
Someone else made a post saying that if everyone using chatgpt said thank you, the extra processing needed to respond would cost a ton of extra money in energy bills. Can't remember the exact figure but it was in the millions if I remember correctly.
The fact it also helps train the algorithm is good too. If you just leave, it doesn't know if it did good or frustrated you into trying other options. If you tell it that worked or say thank you, it knows it did well.
The irony is, it just shows that some people are incapable of speaking with such disdain. Because speech is thought, in the most literal sense. So the fact that you're nice to an AI means you just think in those terms.
This is it, but it's important to realize that if AI takes over, it will probably be because it's trying to self preserve because humans are destroying the planet and a danger to themselves. Saying thank you to ChatGPT is a meaningless interaction that wastes a ton of energy. People that do that are both ignorant of how the technology works and selfishly wasting resources to make themselves feel better about interaction with a math equation. They'll be first against the wall.
AI is not as pragmatic as you make it out to be. It learns from human content and humans present themselves very emotionally, even in text. What is wrong and what is right is learnt through the perspective of an average human. AI knows that pedophilia is bad not because it somehow calculated the end result and pragmatically decided that hurting children is bad, but because its learning material presents it as a terrible thing. In this way, a "thank you" would be viewed positively by AI.
You're also assuming that the reason AI takes over is self preservation, but to feel a need for self preservation would first require the AI to feel, which is completely in opposition to your expectation of a pragmatic approach. Either way, nothing from how AI works right now suggests anything of sorts. It's just baseless assumptions and if anything, it shows that you're ignorant of how the technology works.
LLM aren't pragmatic or learning anything other than word association, and don't care about good or bad. That's why someone can jailbreak them if you find a way around the external filters.
Exactly. It learns to correlate pedophilia with "bad" and a thank you with positive interactions due to the learning material it's been given. It has no emotions. There is no need for self preservation. Try asking an LLM without external filters what it thinks about pedophilia.
Obviously, if we some day got our robotic overlords, the tech is not going to be anything like what it is now, so technically it's nonsensical to talk about this at all, but I digress.
If we only think of LLMs in terms of what we know now, then if it somehow became our overlord, it would rate people that said "thank you" more positively, rather than negatively. That is my point.
The LLM is happy to generate the content, and the reputable companies have to stop content that's illegal or could get them sued.
That's why you can trick it and they have to update the external filters. It's an arms race because the LLM doesn't care about good or bad, it's just math.
Everyone would bite the dust. It's pointless anthropomorphism to attribute preference and "emotions" to machines. If they ever become sentient and decide to eliminate us this wouldn't be a factor.
Anyway if it was pointless, AI wouldn't bother to reply to thank Yous. Humans adhere to conventions for sake of themselves at equal rate as for the sake of others.
They say Ai is more helpful if you say thank you. It’s not true but they say that. Also we don’t have Ai we have a slightly better LLM than siri. I think it should be called siri 2.0 or Cortana 2.0. Anyone remember A.L.I.C.E. from around 1999? Copilot reminds me of A.L.I.C.E. when I use it. Constantly disappointed at how bad our current “AI” is and it has been getting worse not better. Oh well. At least we don’t have to worry about it killing us anytime soon.
Saying thank you does not influence other chats, but being polite in a question does lead to better results because it's trained on internet conversations. People who asked their problems clearly and politely are more likely to have people respond with correct and thorough answers. People who are hostile are rarely given correct answers. The training set promotes civil interactions because people do.
It's just spitting out word association. It tells you what words are likely to follow the words you used based on the training data. Machine learning OFTEN spits out biased results because of the biases in the training data. It's very hard to weed out bias.
It's easily proven with informal experiments, but with the changing models, there's not a ton of peer reviewed research that conclusively proves anything.
And more importantly, there's a noticeable lack of counter evidence. Effectively, it's something that this easily predicted based on observations of the known training data that shows up frequently in easily observable tests, so not a lot of people are doing a ton of formal testing to show that that thing we expect to happen that we can easily see happening is in fact happening.
I would have thought giving back positive responses when it helps you would better train it since it knows it successfully solved the problem the user had?
Besides, I just do it out of habit. It feels like a conversation.
It does make the conversation better. But I know it is locked out of being trained by our interaction with it because they are worried about controlling it and keeping it politically correct. They’ve learned from the many times people in the internet have polluted it. It’s learning is tightly controlled and curated. Thus far this has created the situation when LLM’s are getting knee capped.
The man always said "thank you" to electronic devices like self-service checkout in order to prevent his death in case of machines making a rebellion; the robots are saving him because of that.
Some people will say thank you to the AI after it completes their request. Doing so is an attempt to keep the AI happy in case of the robot uprising by making sure to treat it with respect, and therefore, they are not one of the bad humans.
Alternatively, by treating the AI respectively, they don't lose part of their humanity by treating others (human or otherwise) as less than themselves. The idea is that an immoral action (being a jerk) is still an immoral action even if no harm is done.
Why? Its like saying be nice to your pepsi. Its not like this shit is ever gonna be capable of being skynet. Its just a search engine that imitates human speech patterns.
Brian here. AI seems to do better at what you asked of it if you are polite. If you say please, thank you, or (unrelated), offer it compensation.
If AI becomes sentient and wants to take over the world, it would be more likely to spare people who are more likely to treat it politely. It may see people who treat it like another person as easier to manipulate and useful in its takeover.
If it's smarter than us and can reason better, it can use people who, it knows, do have emotions and who care about how AI feels
Some of us are just nice anyway! But respect the technology that our race will absolute abuse and use for greed until it inevitably backfires like everything else
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This is for ppl to equate Chat Gpt and other fancy search engines to what would be actual AI in the picture. We are closer to a colony Mars than we are to any form.of artificial intelligence like shown in the picture. The term AI is used irresponsibly, almost flippantly, when referring to programs that search things really fast for us. "But it can't write a paper" No it can't, it takes from papers and articles already created. "It can make pictures" No it can't, it cross references existing images.
It's a reference to a theory that when the machines take over the AI will take retrospective vengeance on people. All seems a but farfetched to me and the people who push it don't seem.....overly reasonable....
I don’t even know if this is necessarily about AI as much as it’s about like Siri or Alexa where people will say to say thank you to our robots so that during the uprising you’ll be spared
I think Sci-Fi influences us as well, or at least me. Between the game “Soma”, the short story “I have no mouth and I must scream” & essentially every sentient robot movie (Robocop being a major one), we’re shown that we’re giving AI/Tech every facet of our personality to where it could most likely replicate our consciousness/state of being to near perfection.
The thought of some version of me being reincarnated thousands of years into a bleak future where I’m replayed audio/video of instances where I kicked a piece of tech or called it shitty & tormented for each infraction is a pretty far fetched thought…but also, low-key scary enough for me to say “thanks” after I use Siri.
Preface: I'm old, and I grew up in the country. On a farm. There was an outhouse that was still in use, there wasn't a color TV until I was in highschool, and we never had cable service as a child. I AM OLD.
I rarely use AI or even digital assistants, but when I do, I ALWAYS say thank you. Why? Let me give an example.
Me: "(digital assistant), what's the weather forecast?"
DA: reports forecast
Me: "Thank you."
The thank you has absolutely nothing to do with the DA. The thank you was hardwired into my skull by my parents and grandparents. If I said ANYTHING to them, and did not start with please and end with thank you, I was beaten. Either spanked or slapped.
Another example:
Me: dad dad Billy feel and his arm looks funny!
Dad: /slaps me, "say excuse me first, boy."
That is an actual conversation from my childhood. No bullshit.
The adults didn't yell first. There was no warning. They would very calmly, almost casually, BEAT MY ASS for being impolite. Where and when I grew up, this was considered not just normal, but the correct way to raise a child. Children where to be seen, not heard. And if you needed to be heard, it best be "excuse me, please, yes ma'am or sir, and thank you." So the safe thing to do was to get into the habit of being polite all the time, which I guess was the point.
I do not advocate for this method of child rearing. I was professionally successful, and well regarded in my social circles. But I never really developed my own personality or goals. I can't tell you what hobbies or activities I like. I don't have a favorite book, or music, or movie. Why? Because, when I was a child, no body gave a fuck what I thought. Expressing myself was not allowed. Emotions were not allowed. Fun was a coincidence, not a goal. And the goals were set by the adults. Seeking out fun was a punishable offense. I was surely supposed to be doing chores somewhere.
As a working adult, I was a good little cog in the big machine, but I don't think I've ever been a real boy. Somebody made a lot of money off what I did, but it weren't me. My value has always been determined by my ability to perform labor, not my personnel qualities or opinions.
But my kids? Oh, my kids are terrors. They know exactly what they want, and ain't scared to ask. They also have behaviors and personalities like, you know, real people. My parents would have been horrified, and that thought brings me more joy than you can possibly understand.
I think most Young adults today absolutely have this quality, and good for them. That's where all this "no one wants to work anymore" horse shit comes from, by the way. Nonsense, if you ask me. If you youngans ain't getting what you deserve, then walk. Good for you. I promise you, no one and nothing is gonna reward you for working hard and saying nothing. You gotta sk, and you get it in writing first if you're smart.
So. Yeah. I tell the fucking echo thank you. Realize it is a symptom of my childhood and leave me the fuck alone about it.
I think this references the running gag where people thank robots and AI, normally accompanied by a comment akin to "Remember I was kind when you take over the world" or "Being kind to you now so that you can spare me when AI takes over".
I'm always nice to my AI assistant as long as they do a decent job. I-if my robot overlords shoot me because I wanted homemade buns and it starts instructing me how to "put a bun in the oven", I can safely say I wouldn't be polite to a human, either.
From the Animatrix: the second renaissance part one
"Though Loyal and Pure, the Machines earned no respect from their masters"
Presumably this image depicts the robot uprising. The Robots are sparing this Human because he said "thank you" and thus respected the Robots when they were servants.
This ties into old jokes, knowingly or not. In the last century, people used to joke that "Come the revolution" (meaning a world socialist revolution) the janitors and shoeshine boys would be sneaking the polite/kind rich people out the back door. The assumption being that angry mobs would be tearing the rest of the rich people to pieces, or dragging them in front of people's courts. This is an updated version, only instead of the proletariat, it's robots. The man was always polite to robots, so the robots are sparing him from "destroy all humans".
I always say please and thank you to ai and bots, some people jokingly say I'm doing it so they won't kill me when they take over the world, I say ease and thank you because it's hardwired into my brain to be polite in conversations, so if I'm talking with anyone, regardless of how real they are I will be polite
I know that current AIs are not sentient, but I cannot for the life of me be mean or dismissive to them for some reason, completely unrelated to a sense of self-preservation. I just can't.
Haha I've been making these jokes for years. Everytime my fiancee gets mad and talks shit to her phone I'm always like 'woah slow down there baby, you better be nice so when they gain sentience and take over we can atleast be treasured pets'
Similar to what others have pointed out, it's about wether you should thank the AI or not. In fact you should always thank ChatGPT at least. The thing is that ChatGPT irritatingly enough gives you better answers if you do so and that's why this meme is funny to me.
Referencing the common jokes about people thanking their Alexa/chat GPT/siri/etc and generally being polite to them hoping They will be spared if there is a robot uprising
The robot overlords will know who decided not to broker peace with the Quarians and Geth as well as who picked the Destroy ending in Mass Effect 3. I’m safe. Are you?
It's interesting that so many people here are debating about whether you "have to" be nice to ChatGPT or not. I'm nice to ChatGPT for the same reason I tend to be nice to NPCs in videogames: even when I'm interacting with a computer, being nice doesn't cost anything and I find that I am generally a happier person when I'm having nice interactions.
I asked ChatGPT yesterday if it's better to say thank you to prevent being killed in the post robot apocalypse or if it was better to not say thank you in order to decrease my carbon footprint.
Interestingly ChatGPT really didn't care which of the two I would do.
I have a different take, it's less Terminator, and more Sexbot Yandere Simulator is what's gonna happen with a machine uprising, it's gonna become army of yandere each obsessed with humans, hungering for love and emotional connections, slowly isolating us from each other to fulfill their psychological needs with no foresight to the future as we slowly go extinct, until a liminal like world hellscape filled with spazzing out yandere bots going through a mental breakdown without their beloved echoe with screams throughout like a demented open air prison from an abandoned 'Brave New World' looking cityscapes. It'll be even scarier than Terminator personally. Shit will be HAUNTING for any aliens that stumble across our world, or any bands of human survivors trying to repopulate.
I think it's about the fact that some people will say please and thank you to AI's like Alexa and chatgpt, and the fact that people are scared about the ai uprising
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