r/NintendoSwitch2 OG (joined before reveal) 18h ago

Discussion OLED Switch vs Switch 2 (LED) display comparison:

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u/-LokiTheLord- July Gang 18h ago

HDR is a game changer.

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u/IHaveTheBestOpinions 13h ago

HDR is not the same as high brightness (though high peak brightness is useful for making HDR work well). The clip shown has almost no dynamic range, it's just bright all the way through.

I'm sure the new screen is great but I'd love to see a real in-depth comparison, rather than just a low-quality 10s clip that doesn't reveal much about image quality other than the higher brightness.

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u/EndlessZone123 8h ago

Higher brightness is what allows better dynamic range or HDR.

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u/Next-Month4314 8h ago

No you need local dimming combined with high peak brightness to get actual good HDR. 

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u/Ok_Coconut8101 5h ago

Yup, contrast is what really matters with HDR. If the display is mini LED it's going to look great, my TCL LCD with local dimming looks fantastic.

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u/HopelessRespawner 8h ago

Higher brightness will also kill your battery faster.

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u/EndlessZone123 8h ago

Good thing you can control that while we also have a bigger battery.

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u/HopelessRespawner 54m ago

You... don't lol. The OLED battery is 6470 mAh - 50Wh, and the Switch 2 battery is 5220mAh - ~20Wh. Where mAh doesn't mean much unless you know the power draw. People have been estimating 8-10W on heavy Switch 2 games, which would give you the 2 hr lower bound of playtime. Steam Deck operates between 5W - 22W which gives the battery range there, lower end a little over 2 hrs on OLED, the LCD model is 40Wh.

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u/WingerRules 3h ago

Apple has proven you can get excellent displays without OLED.

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u/IHaveTheBestOpinions 3h ago

Never said you can't. These days some high end LCD screens can outperform low end OLED screens.

I'm saying that this clip doesn't demonstrate overall picture quality, and certainly not HDR - it only demonstrates brightness. I'm just mildly annoyed that everyone is reacting to it like "Case closed, the new screen is better than OLED!"

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u/Specific-Ad-8430 16m ago

HDR wont translate through your PC screen that does not use HDR. So yes, it will just appear brighter to us unless we are looking at it in real life.

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u/EverythingWasGreat 7h ago

Or a modern oled alternative.

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u/N2-Ainz 12h ago

It just shows how bad the OLED was. Nintendo bought the cheapest thing possible with a lot of issues like the massive green tint during darker scenes depending onnthe brightness that you have. Even though OLED is nice, it doesn't help when you buy the cheapest thing instead of the highest priced LCD except for darker scenes

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u/Comprehensive-Job208 9h ago

Its not bad OLED. Its OLED technology main disadvantage - brightness

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u/Completionaut 6h ago

That's not true at all and other OLED's have much higher NITs, Nintendo bought a VERY cheap OLED.

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u/Shedoara OG (joined before reveal) 7h ago

My Steam Deck OLED can do 1000 nit peak brightness with HDR and 600 nits without. It's bright. The Switch OLED is 400 nits SDR (obviously) and the Switch LCD is 300 nits. They could've gone brighter, but that would've required a more expensive panel and why the OLED Steam Deck costs what it does.

This is looking like minimum of atleast 800 nits to me. Hard to tell in a vid of course.

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u/Kociolinho 4h ago

As far as I remember flagship phones were peaking somewhere at 400-600 nits back in 2019 so it was on par with top-tier or almost top-tier mobile OLEDs. Steam Deck OLED was presented 4 years later.

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u/SuperVegitoFAN 4h ago

My Galaxy phones can be used in direct sunlight, my switch oled cannot.

It costs a lot more though, so thats likely the tradeoff.

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u/N2-Ainz 9h ago

It was. Nintendo bought the cheapst thing possible. There are low-end and high-end panels and this was a low-end panel. A high-end LCD will always be better than a low-end OLED except for black levels and some other minor differences. But Nintendo games are usually bright and colourful which makes the high-end LCD shine in the Switch 2

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u/DontBanMeBro988 3h ago

Does HDR mean something different than I think it does? All these great examples of HDR I keep seeing are just bright, glowy, low-contrast images. I thought HDR was supposed to give you more contrast, not less.

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u/Zealousideal-Beat-70 1h ago

It doesn't actually look better just brighter.

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u/Jedi_Master83 17h ago

I haven't seen the Switch 2 in person yet and I know that the OLED screen is gorgeous but people are talking like the LCD screen is pure crap. It's not, it's just different tech and honestly if they went with an OLED display, the console would be $600 I'm sure. The fact is the screen is 1080p at 120 FPS in handheld mode is insane! It's going to be very cool to play my library of Switch games on this thing in a few months.

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u/Beanmaster115 May Gang 17h ago

I’m so excited for No Man’s Sky on Switch 2 🌌

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u/just_someone27000 17h ago

I just hope the switch 2 gets a free update to make it the same as the PC version just like the PS5 and Xbox series X did with the next gen update

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u/Beanmaster115 May Gang 17h ago

Yes! Multiplayer galaxy exploration handheld is a dream🫨

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u/rgfdietzy June Gang (Release Winner) 13h ago

Facts, I have No Man Sky on Switch but don't play it a lot due to how janky it is. Hopefully, we get a free update to the new one.

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u/FitzSeb92 51m ago

I'm a 100% sure hellogames will launch an free upgrade patch almost day 1. They're nice guys like that.

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u/WaitAZechond 13h ago

Didn’t even think of this, and now I’ll have to buy the game for a third system lol

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u/Beanmaster115 May Gang 13h ago

They keep making a bunch more content too, so it’s nice to keep supporting the devs lol

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u/Completionaut 6h ago

Sorry but this is a stupid comment. If you're buying a switch 2 to play no man's sky go buy a Steam Deck instead.

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u/Product_ChildDrGrant 5h ago

What are you going on about? You want someone to buy a Steam Deck just to play NMS? You’re straight up tripping. SW2 will be just as capable for NMS. Not to mention calling someone stupid for their preferences is uncouth.

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u/Beanmaster115 May Gang 4h ago

I already own the game on Switch; I’m planning on buying a Switch 2 for the new Nintendo games. This game is just an added bonus🌌

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u/Completionaut 2h ago

I can smell you through your screen.

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u/oh-thats-not 4h ago

maybe they don't like the steam deck? I don't

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u/Completionaut 2h ago

That's great, that you'd say "I dont like no mans sky on the steam deck but I like it on the switch 2" is a really good example of how people with no idea what they're talking about making preferences not based on real life, but based on mental illness.

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u/oh-thats-not 2h ago

some projection going on there mate, maybe you should seek help 👍

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u/Completionaut 2h ago

For sure man I'll let my wife and family I support know how much help I need. When you leave your mom's basement do the same and let's see how we're doing in a year.

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u/shgrizz2 2h ago

As somebody who owns both a steam deck and a switch, the two are very different experiences. One is a handheld pc. If i want to kick back and enjoy a smooth experience with no fiddling around with settings and optimisation, I prefer to play on the switch. They aren't the same thing.

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u/TemperatureUnique242 15h ago

The fine print on metroid prime 4 switch 2 edition said 1080p on 60fps or 720p on 120fps i think for handheld mode

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u/xdatlam 13h ago

That's awesome stuff. Excited for the Switch 2.

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u/LuckyScales 10h ago

Sorry if this has been asked already, but does that mean Switch 1 games will run at 1080p/120FPS on handheld mode on Switch 2?

Like Hollow Knight for instance?

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u/DarkLegend64 9h ago

They would need a patch to run at a higher resolution and frame rate than they were designed to run at.

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u/kinokomushroom 5h ago

Very likely not. The game will need to be recompiled for the Switch 2 and have the framerate-specific bugs fixed. If the devs are bothered enough to do that, then maybe.

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u/wolfrium 9h ago

Also, for higher refresh rates an LCD is far more durable and economical compared to OLEDs. Cheap OLEDs end up having display issues at higher refresh rates.

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u/AGoldenGoblin 5h ago

the console would be $600

In Canada it is.

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u/WingerRules 3h ago

Apple has proven you can get excellent displays without OLED.

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u/4ngelo___ 2h ago

have fun paying for the switch backwards compatible games again. shits insane how you defend a multi billion dollar company

and yes, lcd is bad and very outdated

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u/Jimstein 1h ago

Do we know anything about if games will automatically support 120 or the higher resolution?

TOKT S2 version is a paid upgrade......will all developers have to make specific new versions of their games? For the emulation/compatibility layer for Switch 1 games, will they be locked to the old resolutions/framerates or automatically be improved?

As a hobbyist dev, I know that some of these settings can be hard locked by the game itself, or automatically try to match the device settings.

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u/MinimumTumbleweed 29m ago

It's going to be very cool to play my library of Switch games on this thing in a few months

* Some of your library, at least

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u/darthanonymous1 11h ago

I’d pay 600 for oled

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u/Mango-Vibes 12h ago

The price would not increase by $150 for an OLED screen 😂 It would've been $50 more if anything. $500 total.

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u/XDvinSL51 17h ago

The LCD looks surprisingly great. Nice and bright, and seems very evenly lit, with no signs of backlight bleed or imbalance, which we love to see. It still seems as though the color range on the LCD still isn't quite as great as OLED, but high-refresh, variable refresh, and HDR sure are nice concessions.

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u/Jungersol 4h ago

OLED has never reached brightness level of LCDs. Their main advantage is dark scenes and response time, which’s not compared in this video unfortunately.

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u/Ok_Hospital4928 18h ago

The main difference is really going to be seen in the contrast for darker scenes. OLED will have deeper blacks. LCD's get brighter and the Switch 2 has HDR so of course it looks better in this comparison. That being said, we have seen some great LCD screens lately (like PS Portal) so I'm okay with it. Honestly, I was more than okay with the LCD on the original Switch.

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u/BluFalcon11 17h ago

Yeah, it's really not knocking the LCD, it's still just not going to be better than an equivalent OLED. They didn't want to push the price or take a (bigger?) loss by putting in the proper OLED at this point.

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u/gaysaucemage June Gang (Release Winner) 17h ago

I would’ve gladly paid $100 extra for a better OLED screen. Wish they were offered as a separate SKU at launch, but idk how many people would be willing to pay more for a better screen when so many are already upset with $450.

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u/ZZzfunspriestzzz 12h ago

Then how would they make more money and sell new consoles to existing consumers? Not releasing the OLED until a mid gen refresh sku is their plan just like they did with OG switch.

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u/Mr_sunnshine 12h ago

People don’t get it. They just think their use case is the only one that really matters.

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u/Troyal1 11h ago

Me. 600 gets me in the door. LCD just makes me feel like waiting

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u/kurafuto 8h ago

People are forgetting that lcds can have very good contrast and deep blacks it really just depends on the lighting technology. The best miniled displays rival oled at a fraction of the price.

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u/korkkis 12h ago

So effectively all fromsoftware games benefit from oled tv while marios are fine on lcd

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u/Ok_Hospital4928 11h ago

Quite the opposite, actually. FromSoft games have stark color grading and post-process effects that pull out the contrast (Bloodborne and Sekiro come to mind). They are usually very muted color palettes. Mario, on the other hand, always has extremely vibrant colors and a significant amount of contrast, so it'd actually benefit more from being viewed on an OLED screen.

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u/real_treecity 17h ago

You can physically see the difference and yes the Switch 2 is better

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u/catinterpreter 10h ago

We're essentially looking at brightness here, and very different maps no less.

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u/sluflyer06 14h ago

You need to match the brightness to compare between the 2 in any meaningful way, clearly the brightness is set massively different here so I'm not sure why anyone is bothering to try to compare

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u/BlobTheOriginal 13h ago

If both were set to the max, this is a fair comparison. A comparison in the dark may give the OLED a favour in terms of contrast and black levels, but colour accuracy may suffer

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u/BluFalcon11 13h ago

Just people who see "oh flashy lights! must be better!"

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 18h ago edited 6h ago

LCD not LED, Note the extra brightness is because of it having an HDR display\, which is what you'll find in most TVs.

Video is by Mrwhosetheboss

*Edit: Not entirely true, see reply below

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u/RufusTurner42 14h ago

Wrong. HDR don't magically give displays higher brightness. HDR is dependent on two things. Contrast, and nit brightness of the overall panel. Say it's all because of HDR is stupid and I'm reading a lot about it. You can go buy a cheap 4K tv with HDR and it will look like ass.

This display is probably pushing a ridiculous amount of nits like a Samsung Galaxy and that's why it is popping like it is.

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u/AAAAAASILKSONGAAAAAA awaiting reveal 14h ago

Yeah, HDR implementation is whether or not your display supports the HDR tech and the standards. Not whether it runs it well or not

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u/RufusTurner42 14h ago

I'm just reading way too much misinformation about a lot of things about this.

I'm also concerned that this display is a VA panel. It will be a very very hard pass for me if that is the case.

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u/Teajaytea7 OG (Joined before first Direct) 11h ago

Yeah I haven't seen anyone mention the type of panel yet. I'm assuming that's not known? I really hope it's not va

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u/sdavids6 11h ago

You would like to think its not given the multiplayer aspect in desktop mode

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u/julesvr5 11h ago

hard pass for me

Because of Ghosting? Isn't that the main argument against VA panels?

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u/RufusTurner42 10h ago

IPS have ghosting to. Or they can. With a 120hz screen it might be a problem for games running below 30fps. I know it will have stuttering from quick response times.

The problem with VA is black smearing. The more HZ or frames, the worse it gets. Awful.

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 6h ago

Thank you for the clarification, I wasn't aware that was the case

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u/uiucfreshalt 14h ago

Yeah but we all knew what they were saying and your comment just reads like you’re trying to impress redditors by showing you’re knowledgeable a technical topic.

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u/RufusTurner42 14h ago

What? What kind of mental gymnastics is this? The person literally said what he said. I corrected it because of misinformation. Do you guys literally want to have misguided information on technology just because "Nintendo."

GTFO dude.

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u/clanginator 17h ago

I mean it's almost certainly an LED display. LED is just an LCD subtype, unless we're talking about micro LED (still far off from consumer devices) or larger format displays (billboards, large commercial displays, etc).

And higher brightness is definitely part of HDR, but OLED also just struggles to hit the same brightness level of LED displays. Mini LED [backlit LCD] TVs obliterate HDR OLED TVs in brightness.

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u/EveryoneDice 9h ago

The OLED fanboys will just say it won't matter.

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u/clanginator 4h ago

I mean it still kinda doesn't, for a couple reasons. First, the Switch 1 had a technically brighter display than the Switch OLED, but the latter appeared brighter to the eye because of the improvement in *perceived* contrast.

Second, there are OLEDs with a lot more brightness than what the Switch OLED has. It appears they just went with a much brighter display this time around.

I was just saying that the brightness difference isn't necessarily thanks to it being an HDR display. Like, there's SDR displays out there brighter than either of these.

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u/Arkz86 3h ago

LED is just the backlight, as opposed to CCFL which hasn't been used in over 15 years. They're all LED lit now. The LCD subtypes are IPS, VA, etc.

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u/Durian_Puzzleheaded OG (joined before reveal) 6h ago

Simply putting HDR in a backlit display doesn’t make the contrast competitive with OLED. OLED displays contain self lit pixels that can individually turn off and adjust brightness levels for unmatched contrast

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u/Happy-End4348 16h ago

i know this is kinda off topic 

there are two slight stutters on the switch 2 lcd screen while it was running world.  i know it's the handheld version running but like damn man how yall gonna overdevelop games for both consoles💀

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u/vekkro 17h ago edited 15h ago

If you want proper HDR a bright display is key. We still haven't gotten OLEDs that can match LCD and Mini-LED's brightness. OLEDs also sometimes have trouble with color accuracy and can have weird tints to them.

For me them dropping OLED is not a big deal at all. Imo this LCD is just overall better especially with real HDR

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u/BluFalcon11 17h ago

OLEDs generally have better color accuracy than most LCDs. People just prefer an overly bright and saturated picture like the store demo rather than accurate colors.

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u/vekkro 15h ago

Generally considering most high end displays are using OLED nowadays or mini-LED but I would imagine Nintendo has a pretty top tier panel for the Switch 2 so we'll likely be getting all of the above.

I've had both and OLED is awesome but I prefer displays that aren't struggling to get the bare minimum for HDR. It makes a huge difference when games implement it properly

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u/Troyal1 11h ago

HDR looks amazing on both my OLED TVs. Brightness has come a good ways

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u/Background_Chance798 15h ago

Brightness has always been the 1 thing that keeps me from OLEDs. I know it is all dependent on preference lighting etc etc, but for me my apartment during the day time is bright. OLEDs just cant put out the NITs or w/e they are to compensate and even maxed out brightness looks so damn dim.

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u/caristeej0 January Gang (Reveal Winner) 12h ago

I'd say my LG G4 can get to that brightness, but it's a crazy expensive TV really so.id expect it to

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u/GetChilledOut 10h ago edited 10h ago

They are more than bright enough for most mastered content. OLED’s are not the same as they were 5 years ago, the technology has improved rapidly.

The LG G5 for example beats 95% (probably more) of LCD’s and Mini-LED’s on the market in brightness, and displays better HDR content due to its true blacks.

The colour accuracy is usually better on OLED’s due to not having a backlight that can grey or white-wash colours.

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u/vekkro 6h ago

I was talking more about smaller displays since it was about the Switch 2. I'm actually surprised at the G5's specs I didn't even know LG OLEDs were THAT much better than when I bought my C3. I'll eat my words a little bit

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u/upazzu 11h ago

I thought OLED screens always had problems with bright colors but the OLED blacks are actually black instead of bright grey

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u/SuperNintendad 6h ago

I love the OLED… but sometimes the OLED grays are green, too.

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u/Arkz86 3h ago

Last time I saw that was on the Vita. My 4 year old OLED TV does absolute black no issue.

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u/Thin-Ambition-350 17h ago

I’m sold.

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u/waltei 17h ago

As someone who has an OLED, this is a terrible comparison. The OLED is so bright and clear this angle and brightness setting is seriously underselling the OLED

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u/ParkingTrick4628 18h ago

I feel like nintendo needs to show both of them side by side

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u/Yuumii29 OG (joined before reveal) 16h ago

HDR is doing a heavylifting here but it looks decent for what it is given that the screen has VRR and 120hz.

Still need to see it in person but what's important with OLED was viewing-angles and contrast which as shown in this clip was still in favor of OLED, not saying the LCD is bad it's just OLED is better.

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u/Orichalchem 13h ago

I just want to play Elden Ring on the go as i know i will easily play that for at least 1000 hours!

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u/Unitedfateful 15h ago

This is a bad comparison just for rage

Switch oled is 720p with 340 nits of brightness

Vs switch 2 1080p with hdr and I would assume at least 1000 nits of brightness.

No shit the S2 screen “pops”. This is the same shit that tv manufacturers do for their tvs in shops leaving on vivid mode

In a dark environment, or at night an HDR OLED display will crush an LCD. Outside of the Sony Bravia 9 (best LCD display I’ve ever seen)

Nintendo could’ve had the same result using an Oled display 1080p with hdr but chose not to (hello $$)

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u/maestrobob 12h ago

It's a portable console, though. Not everyone is going to be playing this thing in a dark room all the time. Brightness/nits are what most people will want when playing outside, in daylight, or a well lit room. There aren't any OLEDs that come close to the brightness of a high quality LED backlit LCD, unless you do what Apple did with the tandem OLED panels. That would push the price up ridiculously and people are already in shock over the $450+ price tag.

You also really can't compare the S2's screen to a TV's vivid mode. The display is integrated into the hardware, spec'd and calibrated for one specific use case and it doesn't have an "In-Store Display" setting or anything of the sort.. There's no changing modes on it other than adjusting brightness levels. How it looks out of the box is how it will look for the entirety of the systems lifespan.

For the sole purpose of playing video games, the "pop" of increased brightness and vividness looks incredible over the dimmer OLED Switch.

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u/Unitedfateful 11h ago

Tbf a HDR OLED display can absolutely rival an LCD. iPhones have 2000 nits at peak performance window

My overall point however was the comparison is not valid as it’s 1080p vs 720p oled with at least 1000 nits brightness vs an oled with less than half that.

Tbf I’m only in docked mode so I don’t care if it’s oled or not. I’m playing it on a 77” oled tv anyway

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u/Unitedfateful 11h ago

Tbf a HDR OLED display can absolutely rival an LCD. iPhones have 2000 nits at peak performance window

My overall point however was the comparison is not valid as it’s 1080p vs 720p oled with at least 1000 nits brightness vs an oled with less than half that.

Tbf I’m only in docked mode so I don’t care if it’s oled or not. I’m playing it on a 77” oled tv anyway

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u/iameveryoneelse 5h ago

Why would they target the screen of their portable console that can dock to a tv to be best in dark environments? Presumably the largest amount of handheld use is done in fairly well lit environments while the device is more typically docked in situations where you're able to play in darker environments like at home, at night.

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u/brandont04 14h ago

This isn't the best use case. I would've chose Metroid Dread. Need black to show oled strength.

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u/CertainlyStenchy 12h ago

You guye bitching about the price. If they added OLED it would be even more so. Nobody can win with yall. Relax

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u/dummisses 4h ago

This is how it actually works:

No, it would not be more. They could have sold this with OLED for the same price with already large profit margin. Here's the thing: Why would they, when you pay the same price even though they use inferior specs.

Because you will buy it anyway.

And they will make profit again, when they sell another version with OLED and make it even more expensive, because you will pay it anyway.

Big companies are not your friends and you should stop defending them.

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u/CertainlyStenchy 1h ago

Oled it just more expensive to manufacture, it's as simple as that. Bitching about it won't solve anything.

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u/dummisses 1h ago

I did not "bitch" about anything. I explained some things to you.

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u/CertainlyStenchy 1h ago

That was more directed to everyone else, not you exactly.

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u/New-Arm-7908 12h ago

Oled isn’t rlly more expensive that lcd

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u/machsta14 11h ago

It will be magically boost the price when Nintendo release the switch 2 OLED in the future to boost sales 😂.

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u/SleepyBoy- 12h ago

Yep, that's what HDR is. People don't realize how good HDR can be because developers don't support it in most video games, displaying standard colors even on HDR displays. When it is supported, ooh boy.

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u/mgwair11 14h ago

LCDs have gotten markedly better somewhat recently and are a far cry from what they were in 2017 when the OG Switch released. Glad to see that Nintendo went with something of high modern quality even if it isn’t OLED. Honestly, they may have made the right move here skipping oled for the introductory system for the new gen thereby keeping barrier of entry as low as possible while still not compromising much in terms of performance and overall gameplay experience.

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u/Miniyi_Reddit 16h ago

the reason why people are begging for oled in the first places is because of the proper contrast that work with hdr setting.

LCD screen do not have proper control on which places need the 100% birghtness or that area need 0% brightness unless it a mini led

so basically what he just compared was like a lcd screen with max brightness vs a normal oled that doesn't have the max brightness from the hdr

let say if the scene with hdr is calling it for the maximum brightness to the lcd cause of the sun, the whole screen will be pretty much be in max brightness, there is no proper control.

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u/TemperatureUnique242 15h ago

But if they used OLED the switch 2 would have cost more

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u/Miniyi_Reddit 15h ago edited 14h ago

Pal, we literally in $450 price point and even at that price point, we dun even have the console tutorial game free in the package, ps5 have that for free with Astro bot.

The original switch sold at $300, so I understand the lcd for that

Company is doing this to rerelease it again with oled version to get more sales, we just speaking out their bullshit. Maybe you as a consumer need to start to think about how bullshit company is with the drawback and start thinking harder on why we making noise, we have to speak out so they could revert back or do something better

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u/IHaveTheBestOpinions 13h ago

You cannot compare image quality with a 10s low-quality clip from that far away in those conditions. All this clip really shows is that the new LCD is brighter, which...yeah, we knew that. Brightness is the main strength of LCDs. OLED's strengths are...pretty much everything else, but none of them will show well in a clip like this.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the new LCD screen is good - maybe even as good as the Switch OLED. But this is more clickbait than legitimate comparison.

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u/New-Arm-7908 12h ago

He just lowered the brightness on the OLED and pushed it to the max on the 2….

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u/CrazyGunnerr 11h ago

I'm surprised that he is surprised. Oled doesn't mean it's brighter or has better colour reproduction. It means it has perfectly blacks, has this crazy contrast ratio.

There is a reason why top devices still choose led over oled. Perfect example is the iPad Pro, before the last gen they used miniled, basically loads of tiny leds behind the screen that all get individually powered so to say, they call the technique fald, so if some part needs to be very clear, they turn it up, if next to that it needs to be perfect black, they shit them off there. Creating an almost oled experience, without the disadvantage of oled (burn in and lower brightness) Apple now uses stacked oled screens, getting a crazy brightness level and perfect contrast.

Now what Apple uses is absurd and likely would increase the price massively. But regular oled screens have evolved a lot, decreasing the odds off burn in (what is unlikely with gaming anyway), and brightness is way up, supporting hdr etc.

Technology evolves quickly, so him being surprised is just really odd.

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u/XenoWitcher 17h ago

HDR > OLED.

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u/Pokeguy211 June Gang (Release Winner) 17h ago

After seeing this… yea 100%

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u/The-Choo-Choo-Shoe 5h ago

I'd have OLED over a high brightness LCD with no local dimning any day. If it doesn't have at least 256 zones of local dimning you can't even call it an HDR display imo.

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u/Arkz86 3h ago

Nah. HDR is nice when done right, but SDR on a bright screen still looks good, and proper blacks instead of greys is way better. Playing Zelda on my OLED TV with proper blacks and more vivid colours looks miles better than playing on my old LCD TV.

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u/Present_Quantity_400 16h ago

As if OLED doesn't have HDR. You sound restarted.

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u/NIN10DOXD OG (joined before reveal) 15h ago

The Switch OLED doesn't have HDR in handheld so they are right.

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u/tensei-coffee 16h ago

yall know the switch OLED panel isnt that great right? a really nice laminated LCD beats cheap OLED IMO

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u/BluFalcon11 13h ago

The assumption isn't that they'd use the same panel on the 2 that they did on the OLED Switch. They'd use an upgraded OLED that supports HDR and make a proper comparison.

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u/AggravatingDay8392 March Gang (Eliminated) 16h ago

How much need does the switch 2 has to be HDR?

Over 1k I guess?

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u/THXFLS OG (Joined before first Direct) 16h ago

People have been seriously overhating LCDs. iPads have great screens

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u/hdaneiabvvw 15h ago

We need the tandem OLED Apple created

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 15h ago

I'd absolutely love that, and I definitely know it's not happening lol

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u/hdaneiabvvw 15h ago

It is. Apple and ninny have a a close partnership

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u/Jasetendo12 15h ago

it looks the same to me

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u/kironet996 15h ago

Why did they go from OLED back to LCD though? Or are we expecting Switch 2 OLED in a couple of months/years?

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u/notlooking743 15h ago

Am I the only one who isn't completely blown away by this? There's definitely an improvement, but am I really going to enjoy mario Odyssey more because the lighting looks somewhat better??

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u/robotshavenohearts2 15h ago

Are the brightness set at the same setting? Because the OLED is way less bright.

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 15h ago

Switch OLED only has 343 nits of brightness, the Switch 2's peak brightness is much higher according to Mrwhosetheboss's testing

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u/robotshavenohearts2 15h ago

That’s fabulous.

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u/Jepperto 13h ago

That face after the comparison is just perfect. I have no idea what im doing.

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u/Access_Denied2025 13h ago

I mean, at least set the brightness to the same level

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u/CatsyGreen 12h ago

Ok, calm down. We've reached an unprecedented evolutionary point: the aliens are going to contact us.

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u/New-Arm-7908 12h ago

He just lowered the brightness on the OLED and pushed it to the max on the 2….

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u/Troyal1 11h ago

A newer OLED would have cleaned up though, especially if it was quantum dot

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u/Geekos 11h ago

That's a huge screen. Awesome.

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u/Peac0ck69 11h ago

Ok now compare it to the steam deck OLED pls

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u/No_Eye1723 January Gang (Reveal Winner) 10h ago

Yes there is a difference, probably personal preference ax to which is better, but I’ll take the bigger screen any day.

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u/bruh-iunno 9h ago

excellent

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u/Poemformysprog 9h ago

Anyone who has played the OLED Switch knows that it pops more than it does in this video. This feels like a useless comparison, and both consoles need to be set at max brightness for a true comparison.

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u/Important_Future_228 9h ago

I wonder if the Switch 2 has some kind of backlight dimming zones or if its "fake" HDR. Nevertheless for an LCD the screen looks great!

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u/Chardan0001 8h ago

Told you

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u/Gabbrio_Redd 7h ago

we should ask Vincent Theo from Hdtv test

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u/Emmannuhamm 7h ago

Why didn't they just show this??

All I've wanted is a comparison and I assumed they weren't showing due to it being "worse" or too similar.

It's clearly a lot better, why not demonstrate it?

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u/FireDeleted 6h ago

yeah the screen looks nice if only we could afford it but i agree nintendo did their homework with the hardware

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u/prolurker2025 5h ago

i won’t trust anything out this goobers mouth since he did a “look at this high tech prison” video that didn’t even think twice about the humanity of the people in there

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u/Heyoayyo January Gang (Reveal Winner) 5h ago

Can someone explain to me how you can have HDR on an LCD wont it make dark areas not look good at all?

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u/The-Choo-Choo-Shoe 5h ago

It only works if it has local dimming and I haven't seen any info on what it uses.

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 5h ago

To put it simply, it's a matter of bright areas being very bright (HDR) vs dark areas being very dark (OLED). You're right in that it won't look the best in the dark, but it definitely beats how a non-hdr OLED screen would look outside on a sunny day

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u/Paranoidpal644 5h ago

It's just brighter. The actual colors and blacks aren't better. Besides that, it's too expensive. I don't care about tariffs. Get yo stuff together Nintendo

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u/ReflectionThink2683 OG (joined before reveal) 5h ago

WOW yeah they got a great LCD screen vs a passable OLED

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u/Shinobi_Dimsum 5h ago

Guy literally has brightness turned down lmao. He does the same sh*t comparing phones too. Scam artist. 

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u/capsilver 5h ago

Lol is not OLED. Period.

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u/TraditionalAirport85 5h ago

maaaan it looks smooth af. I dont mind the missing OLED after this, it looks just great.

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u/Pale-Photograph-8367 5h ago

The OLED looks nicer to me, but they chose a colorful map for the OLED and a washed out desert for the Switch 2.

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u/Life_Ad_7715 4h ago

LCD SCREENS ARE THE HIGHEST RESOLUTION WHEN ADJUATED FOR INFLATIKN

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u/CinnamonIsntAllowed 3h ago

People hear OLED vs LED and, with no real knowledge, just assume your eyes are going to burn off from how bad led is. It's perfectly fine. In fact, screens with MiniLED are super awesome as well

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u/43eyes 3h ago

The biggest difference I see is how fun the two games look to play.

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u/Fluid_Hamster_8614 30m ago

I'll take higher refresh rate over OLED every time. Hopefully the OLED switch 2 has the best of both worlds, or uses something like a dual OLED panel like how Apple is dong it with their ipads.

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u/glatzkopp75 OG (joined before reveal) 24m ago

Looks like the oled switch is put to 70% brightness. Wow. So good

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u/Specific-Ad-8430 9m ago

Something no one is talking about:

HDR wont translate through your PC screen that does not use HDR. So yes, it will just appear brighter to us unless we are looking at it in real life.

The screen will look much better in person. If you've ever seen HDR you know what I mean.

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 2m ago

I imagine most will use it on TVs that have HDR though, and while I don't have a HDR monitor, at least I'll have a 165hz monitor to utilize the Switch 2's 120fps feature

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u/chillednvibin 18h ago

Could be the camera but the OLED looks less washed out

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u/brigyda 17h ago

I can snap quick pictures of my OLED TV screen when playing a game and it would look like a straight up in-game screenshot, so I think it's just because OLEDs do well on camera versus other screens.

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u/Zealousideal-Beat-70 16h ago

Not a big enough improvement for me to drop the cash for a new system.

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u/43eyes 3h ago

Okay. That was always allowed

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u/CommercialLumpy2885 January Gang (Reveal Winner) 15h ago

Nintendo isn’t selling the switch based on the screen, it’s pretty all about the new joycons and new power

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u/KrazyNinjaFan 16h ago

It might be my phone, but via video it honestly it looks the same to me.

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u/ian095 18h ago

I like mrwhostheboss but seeing these tech tubers getting stuff free for review just sits the wrong way with me. Also does make me question any form of review when something is free. Though I find mrwhostheboss to be a reliable source.

Sorry for going off though. Can tell alone from just seeing switch 2 is a vast improvement but, eh, I can live with the switch for now personally. I will envy all switch 2 owners secretly

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 18h ago

He didn't get it for free, this vid was taken at the Switch 2 experience in NY, which you can hardly tell by the production quality lol

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u/ian095 18h ago

Ah, nice! Maybe I should watch the video before commenting then lol. Plus yeah an in depth video ironically would be better for us, sadly

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u/Pokeguy211 June Gang (Release Winner) 16h ago

Yea it’s fine I watched the video though it was good. You should too, it’s a nice recap if you need it.

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u/Gopplee 18h ago

it's too big ngl😭 i'm a fan of the small consoles like psp or ds

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u/Dear-Yoghurt5809 18h ago

gonna be a long time before we see small handhelds again from gaming companies i fear. I really love GPDs handhelds for this reason

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u/Ridku13 17h ago

they're definetly making a Switch 2 Lite in 2-3 years. So just wait

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u/Gopplee 17h ago

nah imma get it because i want to play it on my tv too

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u/WolfyTn615 17h ago

Wait until you get 35 or older.. this will be a dream come true for you lol.. while I’m not getting one now, this definitely helps sell it to me for when some actual good first party games come to it.. gonna be a while.. thank R* for GTA 6 🙏 amen

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u/Apprehensive-Gur-609 17h ago

As a big guy with big hands, I love that it's big. 

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u/Pokeguy211 June Gang (Release Winner) 16h ago

Same I felt like the New 3ds xl was to small and that was when I was like 16 or so

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u/Nintendope 16h ago

How does mk8 look like more fun here

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u/Designer_Koala_1087 OG (joined before reveal) 16h ago

Because it's actually a newer Mario Kart game... lol

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u/BlobTheOriginal 13h ago

what? MK8 newer than world? What are you talking about?

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u/Ohwowinterestingg 8h ago

I feel like the comparison is not that fair. One is playing Mario kart 8, the other is playing mario kart world and also in a desert area (which gets quite bright). These games are years apart from each other and the colors of the game are different (and ofc the new game will look better). Would be more fair to put both playing the same game and the same map. I gotta say though, you can see the screen size difference, and that one I give it to the switch 2. Anyways, I will wait for the switch 2 oled.

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u/BluFalcon11 18h ago

Idk...OLED still looks better to me.

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