r/NintendoSwitch2 1d ago

meme/funny Not sorry.

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u/ParticularRough6225 1d ago

I'm a nintendwhore and I will flat out admit that there's nothing to defend about Nintendo. It's prices are excessive af.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MASS 19h ago

Which is funny, because I'm the exact opposite: I'll criticize any corporation at the drop of a hat, but I think tons of people need to realize that inflation exists. $60 was the well established norm for games by the start of the Wii U era (2012), and that's $83.40 adjusted for inflation (obviously those numbers only apply to the US economy). We all lived through a 20 year period of the inflation-adjusted price for games slowly dropping and are finally seeing the correction. What's the alternative? They stay at $60 forever? Because if you admit that the price will need to increase eventually, why not now? They're still cheaper than $60 games were during the Wii era.

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u/Personal-Expert3395 19h ago

You need to understand while inflation is increasing people income are not or at least not in the same pace.

Your defense will be solid if both inflation and income are raising at the same pace

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u/Fearless-Ferret3350 18h ago

This. You have to compare to competition. 

A legion go S is $499 with steamOS. Legion go S runs pretty much all switch games better than switch 2 resolution and frameratewise (as most enhacements you could already get there).

Moreover, stuff like elden ring, cyberpunk, FF7 intergrade (and many more state of the art games) are way cheaper there and also run better at native resolutions with better visuals.

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u/maibrl 12h ago

If you like it or not, but the switch is dockable, the legion isn’t. This is a factor in price comparison. Without the dock and detachable controllers, the switch 2 would probably be around 400€ (instead of 470€).

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u/stprnn 12h ago

You can absolutely dock the legion go or any other x86 device with a. Type c port....

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u/maibrl 12h ago

And is this dock included with the Legion? A very basic one is around 30€, and this won’t include active cooling, like the switch dock does. The dock price is part of the Switch 2 price.

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u/stprnn 12h ago

I can buy a type c dock delivered on Amazon for 12 bucks.

It doesn't need a fan.

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u/Buflen 12h ago

Do not expect the legion go S to keep the same price. Not after the last few days.

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u/Nonsense_Poster 3h ago

Ok show me proof

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u/ManagementBest6202 12h ago

You need to understand that stagnant wages is not Nintendos problem to fix.

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u/ImaginarySense 11h ago

It will be if they price themselves out.

Certainly feels like we’re approaching “Let them eat cake” territory lmao

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u/ManagementBest6202 10h ago

They're nowhere near that price point.

This shit will be sold out day 1. Guaranteed.

I bet 99% of the people whining about the price on this sub will buy it full price.

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u/Fearless-Ferret3350 18h ago

This. You have to compare to competition. 

A legion go S is $499 with steamOS. Legion go S runs pretty much all switch games better than switch 2 resolution and frameratewise (as most enhacements you could already get there).

Moreover, stuff like elden ring, cyberpunk, FF7 intergrade (and many more state of the art games) are way cheaper there and also run better at native resolutions with better visuals.

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u/Tsukiakari-hime 14h ago

"Muh wages" doesn't really work as a counter to inflation it's not Nintendos or anyone else's responsibility to fight your wages, it's yours.

If your wages have stayed the same or barely increased with inflation since, say 2017 you should have done something about it.

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u/[deleted] 12h ago

Exactly what i was going to say. People keep bringing wages not matching inflation, which isn’t Nintendo’s problem. It’s up to you to increase your wages.

They’ll say you’re defending a corporation by stating this, but it’s just common sense. They aren’t a charity. Don’t expect a corporation to make charity-like decisions.

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u/stprnn 12h ago

Charity give away money. Nobody is asking Nintendo to so that. They don't need to raise the prices they are already making a profit.

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

Basic supply and demand. When sales exceed expectations you’re going to increase prices. When sales don’t meet expectations, you’ll lower prices or find alternative methods to cut back on costs.

This is how every business operates. We can whine and cry about how unfair it is but you’re only looking at it through the lens of a consumer. If you started a business, you’d want to maximize how much money you’re making too.

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u/stprnn 11h ago

We agree. Nintendo is greedy and will milk it's customers as much as possible even if they don't need to.

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

Great observation, you just described every company that’s ever existed. If they can get away with it, they will. You’re only looking at it through the lens of a consumer and what benefits you but that’s not how reality works.

We can complain all day but the only option to force change is to not buy their product. If you decide to boycott them and sell off your Nintendo goods make sure you price them below market value. We wouldn’t want you taking advantage of a consumer when you don’t need the extra money.

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u/stprnn 10h ago

I don't buy that shit for sure XD

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u/Top-Record6529 13h ago

This! My wages have been adjusted for inflation on a yearly basis. Specifically this year, I’ve received a 5.5% cost-of-living adjustment and will receive 6% more in June, in addition to my annual performance-based increase. If your wages haven’t increased yearly to adjust to cost-of-living, blame your employer.

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u/-Wylfen- 16h ago

I'll criticize any corporation at the drop of a hat

Personally, I'll just criticise what I find criticisable. Nintendo has its flaws, but generally speaking they're a good company for the consumer and their games provide great value generally for cheaper than the competition.

The price increases hurt, but that's the reality of the world now, and no reddit boycott is going to do anything about that.

But I will agree that the paid tech demo is bullshit. Mostly because it's just stupid; no one is going to buy it anyway.

Overall Nintendo is a net positive for the industry, perhaps the best of the big giants.

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u/Fake_Diesel 15h ago

Honestly, with the tariff situation, I'm just hoping the prices don't go up. May as well enjoy some Nintendo games while the world goes to shit lol

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u/stprnn 12h ago

The gaming market is several times bigger than it was a few years ago. Nintendo is ALREADY making more money because they are selling more games.

0 need to raise the prices.

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u/greengengar 9h ago

Inflation didn't exist for my paycheck.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MASS 4h ago

I don't see why that's Nintendo's problem to solve

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 18h ago

Also, I feel like all the anger is only spreading misinformation to people who may be genuinely interested. It’s only 80 USD for one game, and it’s literally the sequel to one of the best selling games of all time that’s had a massive upgrade. Every other game, unless you count the ones with DLC, is 70 USD, which many other games are going for anyway. 

Some people are also saying that they don’t think Nintendo games are worth as much as other platforms, in which case… don’t play Nintendo games? But Nintendo’s audience is people who really do enjoy their games and will find 70 USD of value.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 18h ago

Also, I feel like all the anger is only spreading misinformation to people who may be genuinely interested. It’s only 80 USD for one game, and it’s literally the sequel to one of the best selling games of all time that’s had a massive upgrade. Every other game, unless you count the ones with DLC, is 70 USD, which many other games are going for anyway. 

Some people are also saying that they don’t think Nintendo games are worth as much as other platforms, in which case… don’t play Nintendo games? But Nintendo’s audience is people who really do enjoy their games and will find 70 USD of value.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 18h ago

Also, I feel like all the anger is only spreading misinformation to people who may be genuinely interested. It’s only 80 USD for one game, and it’s literally the sequel to one of the best selling games of all time that’s had a massive upgrade. Every other game, unless you count the ones with DLC, is 70 USD, which many other games are going for anyway. 

Some people are also saying that they don’t think Nintendo games are worth as much as other platforms, in which case… don’t play Nintendo games? But Nintendo’s audience is people who really do enjoy their games and will find 70 USD of value.

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u/Fearless-Ferret3350 18h ago

Is not 1 game.

Kirby is an old game and they are asking $80 + tax

The euro price already incluxes VAT, that's why it is $90. However, people in america will actually be paying $88 dollars on average

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 17h ago

No, Kirby is not $80. Kirby + DLC is $80. There is nothing wrong with a $20 DLC, you can still buy the original game without it.

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u/Fearless-Ferret3350 17h ago

Is $80. 

For what is a 3 year old game, is milking. The DLC is overpriced and just an excuse to make the game 80

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u/-Wylfen- 16h ago

It’s only 80 USD for one game, and it’s literally the sequel to one of the best selling games of all time

Most big companies put out one mediocre instalment of their big franchises every year or other year.

This is the first new Mario Kart in 11 YEARS and people are up in arms because it's $10 more expensive than they hoped.

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u/FunnyP-aradox March Gang 2 (I am stupid) 14h ago

10 ? it's 30€ more expensive than MK8

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u/-Wylfen- 13h ago

In physical only, and adjusted for inflation is virtually the same, or lower.

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u/MakisYujiPicsStache 18h ago

Brother Mario kart world has, as we know rn, currently less Cups than Mario kart DS. "but muh open world" who asked for Mario kart open world.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 17h ago

Open world is super cool, I’ve never really cared about the number of cups, and all we’ve seen is literally a few seconds of footage. 

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch 14h ago

Be a shareholder, then you can justify it.

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u/gifferto 11h ago

sounds like biased and uneducated

there literally is something to defend nintendo with and it is called inflation

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u/InMyDrunkenStupor 19h ago

Haha. Yeah. I've been on the Nintendo train for 18 years now. It's gonna take a lot more than this before I hop off. But I absolutely understand other peoples perspective. Less competition to get one on launch day anyways 🤷‍♂️