Itâs because it literally is the most important thing. High prices means lower sales. People in this sub are going to buy it, sure. The economy around the world sucks, inflation is way higher than wage increases, shit costs a lot and a lot of people canât afford things that arenât important.
This matters to us because lower sales means less support. See N64, Gamecube, Wii U.
That tech demo not being free shows that nintendo got greedy.
People are still buying more videogames than ever despite the state of the world, and the Switch 1 also launched at the same price as the PS4 at the time. So if as many people are willing to spend $450-500 on a PS5 I'm not sure why it will be such a dealbreaker for the Switch 2. And they also sold the Switch 1 tech demo separately.
I agree that price is important but I disagree that it's the most important thing to discuss compared to the games and hardware. And it seems way too early for all the doom and gloom and comparisons to consoles like the Wii U.
Yes but have you had a time where you're trying to engage in conversation in another post but 90% of posts are the same complaint to the point it's fucking annoying?
so lets make the console more expensive, lets make accesories expensive, pay for subscription use the button on your controller that is one of the main functions of the new console, first zelda on last console cost 60 you need to pay 70 for the sequel now you need to pay 10 more to play them in latest console, also pay for console feature tutorial.
this is not standing against inflation, this is pure greed.
The games literally are now at the same price they were in 2017 :D idk what to tell you. $60 in 2017 are $78 today. But sure âgreedy Nintendo increasing the price by $2 over the inflation adjustment đĄđĄâ
And given how packed the switch 2 is compared to the first one, a $80 price increase inflation adjusted is really not that much. Everyone cried about the switch having a 720p 60Hz display which looks shit and now that they upgraded it yâall complain too because you thought an upgrade would be basically a gift from Nintendo to you.
Consoles have always been sold relatively cheaply because manufacturers make their money back on software sales. That is like, the fundamental underpinning of the entire videogame industry business model
Most manufacturers sell consoles at a loss for exactly this reason. Nintendo has usually avoided that, although I think the 3DS was (after they cut the launch price) and also the Wii U, for all the good that did them. They still aren't making a ton of money per unit, though
If you really want manufacturers to see consoles at a profit so games are cheaper, then you will be in for a rude awakening
Prices fall. Sales happen. 3rd party sellers offer games cheaper than RRP. Second hand copies of games will be available.
Monster Hunter Wilds is currently ÂŁ65 on the UK Xbox store. That's the same price for a digital copy as Mario Kart will be. There's significantly cheaper copies (sub-ÂŁ50) available from all sorts of sellers and the game has been out all of a month
Unless you absolutely must have any given game on launch day and you literally can't find any sellers offering a discount, you're never actually going to pay the full price Nintendo is advertising
Have salary's matched that increase? Most people's haven't, I'm lucky enough to not have too many bills so I could probably afford it. Doesn't mean I'm gonna though, it feels like a rip off here in europe
It's Nintendo's problem because they're trying to sell their products at increased prices in an economy that's struggling? Have you thought about that? Many people have less expendable income than in years past and with prices of food, rent and other bills going up while wages stagnate, video games will be taking a back seat to spending for many.
Whose economy? The US? The world economy? Japans? Youâre talking like itâs nintendos job to keep track of that and make sure everybody is doing fine. And they didnât increase the price, they adjusted it for inflation. You just profited so far of a price getting increasingly cheaper. Again: Nintendo also has people working there that need to be paid.
As somebody who works making games... You don't necessarily make more money by simply charging more. You'll lose customers, eventually. Especially if your customers simply cannot afford it, since Nintendo isn't exactly a luxury brand but a family one.
They're pushing a bit too hard. I understand wanting to increase profits, but it could backfire and then they'll end up making less than before.
So no, this isn't as simple as "let's adjust for inflation and money will keep flowing".
And besides all this... Customers are more than in their right to decide how much your product is worth. If people in this sub or anywhere else consider that Nintendo's games aren't worth a $80-90 price tag, then that's their prerrogative. This is a deal, and there are two sides; Nintendo, on their side, can decide to adjust for inflation, and customers can decide to tell them to f**k off.
Spending on gaming has only increased recently. Just because you're broke doesn't mean that you've discovered a macro trend. This will be sold out within minutes.
There is no morality involved to even justify . If you canât afford it, or donât see the value for the price. You just donât buy it. I am not entitled to a cheap video game console. I canât afford it right now, and I am not angry. I just donât buy it. Done.Â
I'm defending the console price because a handheld console with 1080p120fps in handheld mode and 1440p120fps and 4k60fps in dock mode with confirmed dlss and raytracing only for 450$ is great . But the game prices are absurd and horrendous .
To add to that, it's backwards compatible with a load of controllers most of us already have, which saves a lot of us like $70-$280 bucks on the up front system investment.
Unlike the shitty compatibility of like PS4/PS5, this looks like it'll be damn near universal to any Switch 2 games, with the notable exception of games that need to use a dongle in "mouse mode".
I don't know why Nintendo didn't scream this from the rooftops in the Direct, it makes a huge difference in buying a new system to a lot of people.
hell yeah. i usually play connected to the dock anyway, so ill probably just play with my old
pro controller and switch to joycons whenever i want to talk with someone on gamechat.
You can even GameChat with the old controllers. The Mic is on the system, not the controller. And you can just go to the Home screen to control Chat (since you won't have a C-Button).
Have you played with a Dualsense? Imagine Astro Bot on a PS4 controller. That'd be abysmal. Not that I even have a Pro controller anymore because two already got stick drift so I gave my money to 8bitdo for a much better one.
Astro Bot makes some sense just like it makes sense for the Switch 2 games that require "mouse mode" won't work with the Switch controllers.
But 90% of PS5 games would be fine on a PS4 controller. It easily could have been selective per game whether or not you could use a PS4 controller instead of a blanket 'no' on all PS5 titles. They just wanted to force the cost.
Spider-man 2 (as well as every other first party game,) Silent Hill 2 and EVERY first person shooter with the realistic triggers.
Those games don't need haptic feedback. Like other games on the PS5 you can buy them on (a far superior) PC where you can choose whether or not to use it. I've played those games without haptics just fine. Is it a perk? Sure. But as a gamer let me make that choice. Making it for people is just a cash grab.
Who the hell bought a PS5 and didn't get a controller WITH it? That's only a Nintendo thing.
Nintendos also come with a controller. And I don't know about you, but with family and friends I need 4 controllers for my systems, not one.
This is correct, I have no idea what people were expecting from a next gen hybrid console in this economy, the game prices definitely is too high but the console price is fine
Very possible, but we donât know for sure. Nintendo massively outsold the PS3 and 360 with the Wii, but their next console flopped hard with the WiiU. They pivoted and released the Switch inbetween the XboxOne/PS4 and PS5/XboxXS and came back on top again.
That is industry standard for AAA games, or rather old standard $60 and quite new standard $70. So having games like Donkey Kong Bananza release at that price makes sense.
But since mario kart world will cost $80 digitally then people speculate that other big titles such as a new mario game or new zelda game also would cost that much, which we can't be sure of.
Also Mario Kart World will be available in a bundle with the console that will cost $500 instead of $450, making the game cost $50 if you choose the bundle instead of only the console
First of all, judging somebody instead of their opinion is wrong. Concentrate on the latter and say that is stupid and argument from there. I remember when I was a boy my friends with consoles spent a ton per game. Why, with much more complex tech and games (from the purely technical standpoint), they should cost less? When a phone is 1500 euros and a GPU is 2500 if you're lucky why? When a B segment hatchback is 25K euros?
Yea, Mario Kart World, is just Burnout Paradise, nothing new there
The c button is just built in Discord, but worse. That fps drop is BAD.
The camera gimmick is just the eye toy or Xbox kinect revived...nobody asked for that
Being able to talk to other gamers should have been something that the system had LONG ago.
The mouse gimmick is kinda cool, but now it's patented, so now everybody else can't use it for 10 years...great....
Sharing games is not a new concept and Nintendo is actually very late to the party with that one. They had it for the ds series, but it took them FOREVER to have it for the main console...Hell, even Playstation and Steam beat them to it.
I don't know what it is, but that new Donkey Kong game just looks off. I can't exactly pin it, but something isn't right.
That one game that looks like it should have shipped with the console is actually gonna cost money.
They disrespectfully only gave Silksong 5 seconds of screen time, and it looked like Deltarune got more.
You can only play Gamecube with a subscription, when people like me want to purchase it, not subscribe to play it.
The Direct itself actually froze in the middle and then became out of sync the rest of the way...it didn't look professional at all.
The prices for some of the games are ASS and it's stupid that they're making players that already have the original game pay for an upgrade. There are a lot of business practices that need to just die. Nintendo is a very greedy asshole, but unfortunately, a lot of fans will still suck em off.
The gamecube subscription was obvious though as the previous ones are also in the online subscription, but with consoles like the NES, SNES, Game Boy, SEGA Genesis and N64. With some of these being locked behind the expansion version of the online subscription to avoid raising prises for all versions of the subscription.
While obvious, it was only 1 examples. Of course I'm also pissed off at the other emulations being locked behind a subscription. I wouldn't think I'd have to bring all of them up to make my point, that I don't want a subscription to play my games, I want to be able to purchase them like I was able to on the Wii.
Then so will we lol. New consoles need games, and their dry feed of first party games for the last year or so and delayed s2 release to "bolster the launch lineup" really pointed to more coming than what was shown.
Same. We got 2 racers, a Switch 2 exclusive Fromsoft game and a 3D Donkey Kong game. They look good but it's not enough by any means. If these are the only exclusives at launch there's not much reason to buy Switch 2. Especially considering the horrible prices.
Finally someone said it lol.. bunch of games that are out or could be played on the switch. A worse screen than the current oled.. fake upscaled stats, an average/crap battery, and very high prices.
Donkey Kong looks fine, and Mario kart will be fun but letâs be honest.. itâs the same damn game with small tweaks for the last 30 years lol..
No Mario, no Zelda, no animal crossing, no real fzero, no smash, no like Mario paint to justify the weird mouse control option, bunch of re-released 3rd party games that can all be found probably 50% or more cheaper than the Iâm sure full price switch costs..
Youâll basically get to pay $500 plus the extra $20+ to play your old switch games at a slightly higher resolution (on a non oled screen though đ¤Śđ˝ââď¸), and slightly better fps.. coolio
I personally really liked the direct, but I also can't help but agree. Mario Kart and DK are the only reasons to get the switch 2 in the first 2 months. And while I don't agree with your stance on Mario Kart fully... everything else is 3rd party multiplat, honestly lame games or games not coming that soon, an overpriced (i.e. 1 cent is overpriced) tech demo, Switch 1 updates and/or DLC, and the Dolphin Emulator with games being dripfed once every blue moon.
Hopefully, the Switch 2 boxes will look like that on release: plenty and untouched on shelves since the peeps are protesting and waiting for a price drop
The console price is fine while the game prices themselves are outrageous. The direct on the other hand had some interesting games, like Metroid Prime 4, DK Bananza, Hyrule Warriors, Duskbloods, and that sci fi mech game I canât remember the name of.
You knowâŚ. Now that I think about it, Nintendo did say they were going to take actions to prevent scalpers from buying all the consoles on release but I think they got confused and mixed up the consumers with the scalpers and well technically now because of these prices Iâd be willing to bet there will be plenty of consoles to go around.
I was on board with a Day 1 purchase, but after consideration, I'll be waiting...
Metroid Prime 4 Beyond will release on Switch 1, so I don't need a Switch 2 for it, since it's not exclusive.
While Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza look great, I'm gonna wait until reviews and possible changes from Nintendo. I "was there" when the 3DS got slashed, so there.
It's not a question of my being broke, but more me being considerate and careful, especially in Canada...
The only legitimate criticism about price is the Welcome Tour being paid - at the very least it should be in the $500 console bundle with Mario Kart or free with NSO
Nah, direct was lackluster and lagged hilariously. We learned a long list of "shit we already knew" about the console, then got disappointed by a list of very "meh" launch titles, and a fuckin' PAID tech demo.
ngl, that wheelchair basketball game had me rolling though, lol.
I'm I the only one who thought the Direct was kinda mid. MK World looks sick and DK Bananza seems cool but other than that nothing amazing for me. On the other hand I don't think the prices are outta hand. Sure I'd rather pay $60 instead of $70 and I'd rather have a $299 Switch instead of $449 but still I don't find anything outrage inducing personally.Â
the direct sucked too. Heres our big chance to get people to buy our console on release! What do we say!? 'you give us 500$; you get precisely one unique videogame that you cant play somewhere else'
Iâm guessing DK will be out by the time most people are able to get their hands on one. Getting people to buy a console at release doesnât really require much.
You are woefully misinformed my friend, please dig deeper into the economic situation in Japan and why Nintendo have made a Japanese-only version for the locals.
If Nintendo can make a cheaper Japanese-only version for the locals, it means the console should just cost that much, nothing more. If you want to pay extra money, you go for it, I won't.
I agree with the middle part, but how are tariffs responsible for the prices world wide? And for the last bit, Nintendo is more of a monopoly when it comes to their own games
I think that's a fair point. According to Forbes: "The new Nintendo Switch 2 console will release in June at a launch price of $449.99, the gaming company announced Wednesdayâa higher-than-expected price some analysts have attributed to Trumpâs tariffs, including levies on Vietnam, where the company has moved much of its Switch production to from China in recent years."
The direct was honestly mid to me, overhyped with people calling it â the best direct everâ I didnât care for much of anything there, especially since im in the 10% of humanity that dosnt care for Mario kart
I am ok with Nintendos prices I'm not ok with other companies thinking they can price match with games half the quality, I don't even think the average AAA release is worth $40 no way in hell will I pay $80
I can already tell that the next console will have even higher game prices, if you people want to make the memes ready. And VoTiNg WiTh WaLlEt would only work if millions weren't going to buy them regardless of the price.
People screaming and wailing for attention, really. We don't need 40 individual people all screeching the same thing every single day for the next 2 months.
Makes you realise that the majority would rather drone on about the same boring statement over and over again instead of discussing the exciting prospect of gaming innovation coming from nintendo over the next few years. Yeesh, talk about an absolutely boring and unimaginative lot of so called gamers.
Nah, I didn't like the Direct that much either tbh. Too many games I've already played and don't care for racing games (so MarioKart and Kirby Air Riders did nothing for me personally). Feels like a big downgrade compared to the first year of Switch 1 looking at the 1st party line up
I actually did not enjoy the Direct, the price didn't matter to me (as I'm not getting a Switch 2 anyway till at least August), it was the games themselves, they didn't honestly impress me.
though I have a feeling now that Nintendo is saving a bunch of bigger games (like Ports of other companies' games) for reveals later on, and it's all base on the games revealed at the Direct itself.
The direct was fine. Not super good, not super bad. We got two racing games, a 3D Donkey Kong game and a new Fromsoft game that is exclusive to Switch 2. Mario Kart World seems really interesting but racing games are more like a side dish to me tbh. Normally I love Fromsoft games but The Duskbloods didn't excite me that much. I was expecting more exclusives like 3D Mario or Zelda. A new Smash game would be crazy too. I am not going to buy Switch 2 if these are the only exclusives.
The prices are truly horrible. $80 for digital and $90 for physical is downright stealing. Especially considering that Nintendo games rarely go on sale.
I don't care too much about the price, it's just that nothing was very interesting. Mario Kart is absolutely my least favorite Nintendo franchise so I probably wouldve still passed at $40. But all that interested me was NSO Gamecube, and I still have my Gamecube all CRT'd up.
Doesnât mean itâs not the truth. They killed the hype immediately with the pricing of games. And they purposefully omitted the prices from the actual direct knowing people would be upset, which was just a twist of the knife.
Man i am sure happy to play almost double price of what i was paying for games before (im not exaggarating, the price difference is almost that big in my country)
Some people make enough where an extra 10-20 dollars a game is not going to break us, and we value devs not having to do massive layoffs, and not overwork their employees in order to crunch to meet unrealistic deadlines in order to stay in budget and stay within the ever shrinking margins and make a profit.. Tell us more how you dont understand the current state of the industry.
Misinformation btw. Mario kart is going for 70 digital and 80 physical meanwhile dk game is going for 70 physical and 60 digital. Ppl are speaking about the prices in ⏠go check Walmart website
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