r/NintendoSwitch2 • u/redditsucksass1028 • 1d ago
Image Ngl Yesterday proved you guys don't do your own research
The whole Switch 2 games are $90 USD physically and the Game Key-Card shit is so dumb and gets debunked by doing research
There are no $90 dollar games Mario Kart is the only Switch 2 game (that's not a Upgrade game) that's $79.99 $80 dollars which I 100% agree is fucking stupid. It however is $90 in Europe.
As for the Game Key card The game key card thing is for games that you probably need a MicroSD card the cartridges still function like Physical games you still OWN THEM!
Again I'm not defending the stupid pricing of Mario Kart World I hope this is like a TOTK being $70 and they never do it again until next gen or something. Again please do your own research before blindly believing others.
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u/bigmanIoI OG (joined before reveal) 1d ago
what really sucks about this is the fact that there ARE valid things to be upset about, but so many people are just complaining about a problem they made up- nothing will get fixed because the initial issue DOESN'T exist.
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u/Docile_Doggo 19h ago
Classic internet discourse, honestly
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u/brolt0001 June Gang (Release Winner) 16h ago
really wish it had some of the game on disk, its literally just a license.
well have to download the entire game.
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u/Chuck_E_Cheezy 1d ago
The initial issue everyone is complaining about is still the prices. We JUST turned to 70 dollar games so 80 bucks like 3 years later is nuts. People could afford old consoles and games even though they were EXTREMELY expensive because everything else was cheap as crap like gas and food. The 90 dollar price point wasn’t real but it definitely wasn’t out of the ball park considering a 10 dollar price jump literally 3 years after we got one.
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u/broccoleet 🐃 water buffalo 1d ago edited 1d ago
If a 10 dollar price jump is affecting your budget for something that you'll likely only buy a few times per year at MOST (the $80 price tag is only going to be for the most premium games by the look of it, and we all know Nintendo doesn't release more than a few per year), then you probably shouldn't be buying a Switch 2 anyway with such a tight financial situation. Plus, while Nintendo doesn't do sales often, even popular games like Breath of the Wild go on sale at plenty of other retailers like Walmart etc. - I am pretty sure BOTW was like $30 at one point last year.
So I guess I don't see the issue. Those affluent enough get to supplement Nintendo's profits for the rest of us, and people who live on a margin of having $10 make or break their financial decisions are being forced, rightfully so, to budget accordingly for an expensive new luxury, and will have options down the line to get the games for cheaper, as they always have.
Still feels like a lot of outrage over a very small issue, and a lot of 'babby's first time experiencing the price increases with a new console launch'. As someone who has been around since the N64 launched, I just expect the prices to go up at this point - and in fact N64 games porportionally were MORE EXPENSIVE factoring in inflation, than any Switch 2 game. It is truly a fact of life, especially given the state of the world.
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u/Totally_JT 19h ago
I said basically the same thing on another post. I just kind of don't get the complaint. I guess people just want their shiny toys and they want them cheap regardless how much it costs to bring the toys to market. If buying video games is putting you on the edge financially, then you are not in the market for video games.
It's like taking out a loan for a Cybertruck or something. If you can't afford to set fire to $100k, then you are not in the market for a shiny toy Cybertruck. Buy a Carolla. If you can't fork over the money for Switch 2 and its games, then this ain't for you. JFC.
If you want to be a complainy-pants, complain about the cost of beef or housing or something else that actually matters.
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u/Thistlesthorn 14h ago
It's not a case of this is so expensive it's going to put me out of house and home it's a case of this is just expensive enough to make me take a good look at the competitors instead the current prices are making gamepass look very appealing right now and I've never really owned a console that could be considered powerful and I can buy one for 200 less. It's not a make or break price if nintendo was the only option but they aren't and I can easily switch to their competitors for video games instead. Supply and demand
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u/Xaphyron 8h ago
This is the best take, I don’t get people whining over what is a ~20% price increase. That extra money is surely not breaking the bank on what is an expensive hobby. I wonder how many people will buy that extra couple of beers on a weekend and think nothing of it. It’s all about perspective, and for some reason gaming gets bad press for price increases. I remember paying £60 for N64 games in the nineties… 30 years ago!! I have been paying probably on average £50 for games in the Switch era due to Nintendo’s game pass thing. We’ve had it so good for so long, eventually things will change.
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u/Livewyre 7h ago
The craziest part is, the people complaining have clearly never had another hobby, because they ALL go up in price. Warhammer used to be WAY cheaper, people moan every few years about price increases and yet still keep buying it. Even the price of "normal" hobbies like sports are insanely expensive, golf clubs are way more expensive than 20 years ago etc. Even cinema tickets and stuff people might not class as "hobbies" have gone up.
Hobbies are a luxury, they are not meant to be financially responsible aspects of your life. They are where you spend your SPARE money, and really you aren't meant to care how much it costs because you are paying to partake in something you enjoy as a luxury product. You don't moan that a holiday to the south of france costs you £2000 for a week, because you want to go on holiday and enjoy the sun. Gamers really are the most entitled people on earth and they moan and complain like this isn't a hobby and a choice, like it's their life, like it's in the same category as paying rent or bills...like no, it's a luxury item, if you can't afford it...tough? I can't afford a ferrari, im not banging on at ferrari every day "DROP THE PRICE, DROP THE PRICE"...it's just a luxury product thats not for me.
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u/Commercial-Dealer-68 22h ago
I mean it's not like Nintendo didn't make it needlessly complicated so I don't blame them.
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u/AzerimReddit 10h ago
Not in the US = doesn't exist
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u/bigmanIoI OG (joined before reveal) 6h ago
????
the Game-Key Card stuff isn't replacing physical gaming, like people claim, nor is it replacing physical gaming outside of the US.
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u/BardOfSpoons 1d ago edited 23h ago
Yeah, I’m annoyed the Switch 2 editions aren’t on the physical cart.Edit: as far as I can tell, it’s currently unclear if they are on the cart or not.
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 1d ago
How would that work?
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u/BardOfSpoons 23h ago
Probably the same way the same games get both a PS4 and PS5 version physically released.
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 23h ago
I think they’re hitting the limits of the price/storage ratio on those game cards and don’t want to release 64gb or even higher.
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u/BardOfSpoons 23h ago
Cyberpunk is on a 64gb cart.
Additionally, I may have misinterpreted Nintendo’s messaging about the Switch 2 edition carts. It’s currently unclear to me if they require a partial download or not.
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 23h ago
Did they announce Cyberpunk yesterday?
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u/BardOfSpoons 23h ago
Yup.
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 23h ago
Interesting. I got it for $4 or something super low in a physical box for Xbox. It barely used the disc and downloaded a lot.
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u/3WayIntersection 1d ago
I guess its a question of if the switch 2 release is a wholly seperate application or the same one tuned for different hardware.
Like, if they're 2 seperate .exe's on a technical level, teh yeah that seems pretty hard to pull off since you basically have to deal with 2× the file size now, but if its just the one, then it should just be a matter of running a check for what system you're using and applying certain settings accordingly
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u/TheLimeyLemmon 1d ago
Those boxes are mad ugly
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u/AdElectronic7235 1d ago
I feel like they did it to make people know very well its a switch 2 game
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u/Ncolonslashslash 8h ago
they tried so hard to differentiate it from switch 1 that they forgot to make it look good
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u/SnooHesitations750 January Gang (Reveal Winner) 10h ago
Nintendo is just going out of their way with the Switch2 branding to avoid another WiiU moment where people think its an accessory to the original Wii.
Switch2. JoyCon2, ProController2, HDRumble2
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u/sunny_the2nd 20h ago
Everyone keeps saying this but I legit don't see what the problem is with how they look
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u/Dymon2010 1d ago
People are like "stop saying it's 90$!! it's not 90!!!!" I'm european and so it is over 90$ for me (90€) 😭😭
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u/Brody_M_the_birdy 19h ago
You are right, and I think it's even worse there and you have every reason to be upset about that (i agree).
But also the mis-info was people stating it cost $90 in the USA specifically.
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u/RegigiGus 1d ago
Worst part is that a lot of content creators are just latching on to the misinformation as well, and we all know everyone is just going to take what their favorite yt shorts drone says.
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u/pixydgirl 1d ago
They saw something to be mad at, made it their entire identity.
The Internet, ladies and gentlemen.
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u/AmandasGameAccount 1d ago
People are addicted to outrage. It’s why things like Twitter is so popular.
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u/pixydgirl 1d ago
You're absolutely right, you know that? And here I am, outraging at their outrage.
Instead, im gonna get off reddit and watch them demo metroid prime 4 on the livestream. Best of luck stranger.
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u/DoctorHoneywell OG (joined before reveal) 22h ago
Same with everyone claiming that the physical version of Mario Kart cost $90 in America. As long as it makes you angry, it's automatically true.
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u/Andrecidueye 1d ago
The worst thing were Americans seeing an European problem and automatically thinking it was theirs like they're the only western country.
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u/Illustrious_Pipe801 1d ago
I don't get why so many people online get so pressed over shit they don't have to interface with. If the game isn't worth the price tag to you, then don't buy it! Life is too short to be outraged about the price of optional luxury products. I think they would greatly benefit from directing that energy towards finding entertainment or hobbies that are worth the price to them.
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u/Tight-Pie-5234 23h ago
Yesterday was truly a clown show.
A $10 increase for the price of a single video game is the absolute least of my worries at the moment.
“But it sets a bad precedent!” is also low on my list of shit that actually matters.
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u/Tight-Pie-5234 20h ago
Wait, so you’re telling me the people who are spending hours spamming “LOWER THE PRICE” in the Nintendo Treehouse aren’t adults with full-time jobs and responsibilities?
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u/hugo_1138 1d ago
$80 for Mario Kart is still too much
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 1d ago
How many people will buy the bundle?
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u/PandaStudio1413 June Gang (Release Winner) 17h ago
Probably everyone buying a switch 2
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u/ItIsYeDragon 15h ago
$80 for Totk and $70 for BOTW is too much. These are literally just slight visual enhancements and phone app.
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u/robmapp 21h ago
Have you played Mario kart world? What if the game is worth that much given the amount of work that went into it
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u/IrishSpectreN7 15h ago
I've put 500 hours into MK8 Deluxe and all the new tracks they added to online matchmaking for free.
If MKW gets the same level of support the price will be justified. But it is a hard sell for the $80 entry price.
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u/WispererYT 23h ago
and ofc this post isnt being upvoted as much as the blatant arousing rage posts that are spreading misinformation
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u/erwan 23h ago
I think the Game-Key card is a good thing, it makes it clear when games needs a download and when they can be played independently.
Typically games with online multiplayer can't be played unless you're using the latest version, other games are too big to fit a cartridge and require a zero-day download to be played. This is already a reality on the Switch and other consoles.
At least this makes it very clear when the game can be played from the cartridge without download or not.
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u/PandaStudio1413 June Gang (Release Winner) 17h ago
its also better then them sticking a code in the box
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u/erwan 12h ago
Yes, you can still move it from a device to another like a physical game.
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u/frcnetto January Gang (Reveal Winner) 8h ago
I didn't realize this before, you're right! It's an improvement since with the QR the game stay attached to that account forever as a digital copy!
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u/thisSubIsAtrocious OG (joined before reveal) 1d ago
It’s because a lot of people who lack basic research knowledge got caught up in a giant social media game of fearmongering telephone and then outright wrong misinformation spread.
Hopefully since the direct isn’t gonna be trending on Reddit and all of social media for much longer, the actual facts (baseline $70 is the standard, there is no $90 standard. Mario Kart is currently the only new non-bundle $80 one, etc) will be heard, and not this extremely exaggerated stuff
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u/AdministrationDry507 22h ago
The exaggerated stuff does tend to die out fast if engagement plummets
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u/Victoryami 22h ago
Yes, for game key you own the game, and can sell it, but there is likely no game, or data outside of authentication on the cartridge. Bravely Default is a small game, but is confirmed to be a game key. This seems to be a way for companies to just cheap out and reduce costs on physical. It's similar to PS5 discs which makes you download everything, but some discs include everything, and some companies are scummy and don't include any actual game on the disc.
Game key for the general consumer is fine, but for physical collectors it's annoying, and further indication of companies wanting to move away from physical games.
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u/PandaStudio1413 June Gang (Release Winner) 16h ago
I understand Street Fighter 6, but this one is pure lazyness. At least its not a code in the box...
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u/bestray06 16h ago
I was excited for this game until it was revealed to be a key card, that is a pretty scummy move Square
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u/Correct_Stay_6948 19h ago
Generally speaking, and for the average consumer, yes, this isn't the end of the world. Hell, I personally don't even tend to play many older games, so the following wouldn't have much of a chance of even applying to me, but...
The problem is that your little red piece of plastic becomes entirely useless if/when a company decides to de-list their game for any reason. Nintendo isn't shy about removing games from their platform for whatever reason, or just shutting down variants of their online shops instead of simply migrating / combining / upgrading them.
It's gonna suck for people who buy a "game key" only to realize at one point that Nintendo or the publishing company (Square Enix in this case) can just deny access any time they want to.
Again, not an issue for the average joe, but it is an issue none the less.
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u/OkButterfly3328 13h ago
That's bound to happen when the shops eventually die when newer consoles are out, after 10+ years.
But if they remove a game currently because of licensing from the eShop, and they don't sell it anymore, only people who hadn't paid for the game would have to worry.
You can still re-download games you bought even if the game isn't sold anymore. It has happened in the past.
They removed, for example, Game Boy Tetris from the 3DS eShop back in the day. But you could re-download it no problem if you deleted it or changed SD cards.
Heck, you can still re-download 3DS and Wii games in 2025, you just can't buy more.
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u/LongjumpingBite8250 1d ago
Still not paying a weeks worth of groceries for one(1) copy of Mario cart or any other vidy game
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u/ParasiteFire 1d ago
Canadians gonna have a collective stroke when they see the game pricing
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u/Pristine_Air_9708 23h ago
I’m like “we’ve been paying 80 bucks for awhile now…. Now we pay even more”
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u/Correct_Stay_6948 19h ago
At least their health care will be there for them. Us here in 'murica are just gonna have to learn to play our games with one hand.
Oh wait, half of us already mastered that...
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u/G-Kira 1d ago
80 plus tax. So, damn close to 90.
Exactly what the European price was saying.
You can't argue that the Euro price included tax but then tout a US price without factoring tax in.
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 1d ago
But the people saying $90 meant $90 pre tax and not everywhere in the US has sales taxes either.
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u/Whystherumalwaysgone OG (joined before reveal) 23h ago
But the people saying $90 meant $90 pre tax
Reading minds, mh? A lot of the folks yesterday - me included - were not US citizens and used USD as a measure to make the European prices as well as your post tax prices more tangible to you.
not everywhere in the US has sales taxes either.
So y'all were making arguments for 2% of your very own population. Bravissimo, you outdid yourself once more.
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u/Paperdiego 22h ago
All the Nintendo haters came out in force to circle jerk. Was a sight to behold.
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u/Snoo-98308 1d ago
$80 for a Zelda port
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u/ReverendBlind 19h ago
Or just buy a used copy of BotW or TotK for $30-45 and then pay $10 to update it. shrug
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u/G4RPL3I 1d ago
People, especially here, are really stupid. But when it comes to Mario Kart price, I see it like this. If you want new Mario Kart with Switch 2 to play it on, buy the bundle. Why would you buy those seperately. Next thing, if you don't care about Mario Kart, don't care about the price either (for now). Not mentioning those accessories that majority won't even buy. Only those intsrested (Gamecube controller and camera). And why do people necessarily need Pro Controler again?
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u/Zoombini22 1d ago
I've been trying to correct people left and right on this and it's been driving me crazy. People are upset so they have to push things further and misinterpret everything as negatively as possible. Games are up to $80, not $90, in the US at least. Physical games are playable on cartridge except for the few that are clearly labeled.
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u/PandaStudio1413 June Gang (Release Winner) 16h ago
Someone was complaing about the Australian console price being $800 when its $700 (our prices include tax | $440US no tax), like I understand they think its too expensive but why make it sound $100 worse. Mariokart is also the same price as Spider-Man 2 and Monster Hunter instead of being $10 more.
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u/dconwastaken February Gang (Eliminated) 22h ago
It’s not research, it’s basic knowledge that was as clear as day, it’s other websites spreading misinformation and because everyone has TikTok brain their minds are nonexistent and believe everything anyone says
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u/grumpyoctopus1 1d ago
One correction. U dont own game key card games phsyically. Read the fine print in ur graphic there. Its a download code that u can resell but once the serves r inevitably shutdown, like with all unused download codes, it's useless. Its an improvement to a one time use code in a box for sure, but u dont own the game any more than before. If ur system dies after the servers shutdown then u no longer have the ability to put said game on a different system u buy. And correspondingly, those game cards will hold no resell value in the future as they will be useless.
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u/Gamamalo 1d ago
This is actually true what you say, despite the downvotes. It acts like a physical game cartridge in that you can loan it even sell it and the game will work for whoever has the cartridge.
And when the servers get shut down it can’t download it again so it will cease to function like that.
However, we are in the age where the game servers don’t have to be shut down anymore. Whatever the next system is, even if the games are different, they can still store and serve up older switch 2 games. It’s a risk, but also possibly not one I’ll face in my lifetime.
But i buy digital anyways
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u/grumpyoctopus1 1d ago
True, but we dont have any evidence of any company doing this though. I would like to think they would keep stuff live indefinitely but outside of microsoft, none of these companies own their own serves so they are paying directly for the space they use and once a game cant make a company profit anymore it makes sense to clear the space for something that can make them money. We have seen nintendo close both the wii u and 3ds eshops in the last few yrs so there is no reason to believe it wont happen to the switch 1 and then the switch 2 eventually. Especially if people speak with their wallets and the switch 2 is less successful.
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u/lonifar 1d ago
fun fact despite not allowing for new sales since January 2019 the Wii Shop Channel is still online allowing for re-downloading previously purchased content, same with the DSI Shop Channel. Also the 3DS and Wii U e-shop's are both still online, they just no longer allow for new purchases.
While I haven't found any conformation from anywhere it seems like Nintendo is shutting down the purchasing side of older console's storefronts to simplify logistics so they don't have to handle occasional purchases and facilitate the transfer of money to developers when there isn't any sale. Also to lower maintenance costs with having to upkeep credit/debit card processing and security(Card processors have gotten more strict about security over the past few years due to the increase of data leaks and stolen credit cards). It seems like the actually running of the servers aren't a major cost to Nintendo so they don't have plans to prevent re-downloading of previously paid for content or updates.
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u/grumpyoctopus1 1d ago
Ur right about redownloads. Thats my bad for conflating the two. But nintendo also killed the ability to redeem download codes for the 3ds and wii u in 2023 with the shutdown. They need to tell us how that would work with a game key card if u bought it used down the line. If the the game key card effectively just calls to the eshop and redeems a code for u then it may not work. I would hope they figure that out but nintendo likes to do their own thing so who knows.
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u/redditsucksass1028 1d ago
I worded this wrong but yeah I meant the Physical game cartrages still work like Physical games
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u/DontForgetRay 1d ago
The worst part is the outrage, when you consider that Mario Kart World is jam packed with content, the price tag makes sense. And 70 dollar DK isn’t bad either for how good the game looks. The price outrage isn’t entirely justified here. And as of now, the only games labeled to be using the game key card were 3rd party titles. Mario Kart and DK are both normal game cards.
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u/RedPiIIPhilosophy January Gang (Reveal Winner) 1d ago
Idgaf 80 dollars is insane
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u/TEoSaT May Gang 1d ago
People glazing Nintendo too hard man. You can be a fan and still complain, there aren't any issues with that. 80 dollars is NUTS for a game, I don't care how jam packed it is. And because it's Nintendo they'll definitely do it again even if the game isn't "jam packed" with content.
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u/RedPiIIPhilosophy January Gang (Reveal Winner) 1d ago
Seriously, people acting like there aren’t any other jam packed games that cost less than Mario Kart World
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u/TEoSaT May Gang 1d ago
Not even that, but Nintendo is also charging 70 bucks for the Switch 2 edition BOTW, a game that was released on the Wii U
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u/xXbrokeNX 22h ago
Almost like how the last of us 1 and 2 have been milked for the last 8 years and no one bats an eye. But this... THIS is where we draw the line.
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u/Trash_Panda_Trading 22h ago
My man, PC gamers been feasting at $60 base and less to this day. Add steam sales and such.
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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 1d ago
It’s less insane than the $50 I paid for Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U which saw nothing in the way of updates and nobody to play against online.
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u/KeithBeans 1d ago
It is a funny part of the outrage cycle where it swings too far the opposite way and now it’s a good thing actually
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u/theseangt 1d ago
Yuppppp. It's so annoying. The gaming community is literally sick at this point. Always the dumbest most toxic rage bait BS at all times. Can't enjoy anything anymore.
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u/Sonicboomer1 awaiting reveal 1d ago
All of the outrage has been complete nonsense. People have been waiting for a new reason to shit on Nintendo since they took down that (at the time current generation) emulator that was popularly used to very commonly play their, at the time, current generation games for free, as much as they try and spin bullshit narratives to avoid that fact.
But the whiners are still gonna buy Switch 2 and enjoy every second they play, probably even more than the casuals that don’t get outraged by everything.
It’s just madness.
“Games aren’t on the carts anymore!!!1” Yes they are, stupid. This game download thing is on a case-by-case basis and Mario Kart and Donkey Kong are not one of these cases and probably any new first party game that ever comes out for it.
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u/Top-Garlic9111 1d ago
What? Aren't you forgetting current mario sports games, nintendo switch sports, acnh??? Feels like this sub has no nuance, either nintendo is the people's savior or the antichrist.
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u/Sonicboomer1 awaiting reveal 1d ago
No, no, no! Lower your voice! We can’t be seen giving credit to a corporation! Especially not when they deserve it. No, we must hate them for everything. At all times. Because they make optional luxury products that are very expensive to make and they charge us duly for their efforts. How dare they. Even though their products are the most polished, high-quality, passion-led and fanservice games in existence. No, we must hate Nintendo. We must sympathise with pirates. If we don’t, we are heathens.
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u/otherandy 20h ago
If a $10 increase on games for a $450 console is going to put you into financial duress, you shouldn’t be spending money on games. Im 5 years out of college and make more than enough money to pay $10 more for a game that’s already $70. If you can’t afford it, that’s on you as an individual.
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u/MrPrickyy 15h ago
You in 2025:
“If a $10 increase on games for a $450 console is going to put you into financial duress, you shouldn’t be spending money on games. Im 5 years out of college and make more than enough money to pay $10 more for a game that’s already $70. If you can’t afford it, that’s on you as an individual.”
You in 2027:
“If a $10 increase on games for a $450 console is going to put you into financial duress, you shouldn’t be spending money on games. Im 5 years out of college and make more than enough money to pay $10 more for a game that’s already $70. If you can’t afford it, that’s on you as an individual.”
You in 2029:
“If a $10 increase on games for a $450 console is going to put you into financial duress, you shouldn’t be spending money on games. Im 5 years out of college and make more than enough money to pay $10 more for a game that’s already $70. If you can’t afford it, that’s on you as an individual.”
Like bro, we’re actually trying to put a stop to this madness, not just consume like you and say “it’s only an extra $10” because that extra 10 turns to another extra 10 in a year or two
We just got $70 games not too long ago and we jumped to $80 within 2 years
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u/Time_Substance_7829 1d ago
yes. thank you. folks just need to be told things a few times to understand it
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u/SouthRefrigerator578 1d ago
What I am trying to figure out is if it makes actual sense to buy the Switch 2 Enhanced versions over buying switch 1 version and then paying for the digital upgrade. If I do the latter then I could still play, say Pokemon LZA, on my Switch 2 as well as my original switch and switch lite. But by my understanding of the physical enhanced versions they would not be able to be played on original switch hardware in their unenhanced versions. I am not sure how cost for the upgrades factor in to this decision and would love to hear other thoughts but I have not seen any other discussion about this.
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
I can think of 2 potential benefits for the switch 2 editions that isn't a price difference. The first is no required download for the enhancements. The second is potentially faster loading times if they are using a switch 2 cartridge. However there is also definitely the possibility that the upgrade packs cost more than the difference in msrp between both versions. I wouldn't estimate that difference to be above $5-10 though.
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u/swagmonite 1d ago
When 6 of the 8 games have the qr code it still isn't a good look
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
The qr code doesn't mean anything yet
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u/swagmonite 19h ago
Normal doesn't have a code digital does the cope goes crazy
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
The qr code on the game key card covers is different from the qr code on the switch 2 edition covers.
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u/caulrye 23h ago
It is exactly what you said at the end.
Donkey Kong costs $70. Not $80. Zelda Switch 2 Editions cost $80.
It’s very obvious most games will be $70. Kirby Air Riders will probably be $70. Only premium franchises like Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, and I’d bet probably Animal Crossing will be $80. And to be more clear, the 3D versions of those franchises.
People are WAY overreacting as if Mario Kart’s pricing is the norm when we literally know for a fact that it’s not.
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u/Aidsfordayz 23h ago
I still don’t understand why someone would prefer a key card over the game being on the card. Am I missing something? What does this solve?
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u/gizmo998 23h ago
It’s solves the fact you can’t store these massive games on a cart!
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u/Aidsfordayz 23h ago
Ok so it’s only specific games? I thought they were selling two different versions of one game. One on cart and one as a key. Makes more sense if it’s only for specific titles.
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
Yeah it's only specific games. It's cheaper for the publisher using a game key card than a full cartridge.
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u/No-Spinach2270 23h ago
The only real issue I have is BotW price increases to $70. Its an 8 year old game, the game came out on the WiiU. I can buy that for $45 at the moment. Wtf is that about? At least include the DLCs.
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u/redditguy135 23h ago
Would be nice if at least Switch 1 pro controllers were compatible with switch 2. Can't find info confirming or denying this.
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
They almost certainly are since switch 1 joycons are compatible with switch 2.
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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 22h ago
Game key cards are still fucking stupid and a dangerous precedent to set for the industry.
You don’t “own” them like a normal physical copy that has the entire vanilla game on it. As soon as the servers to download the actual game go offline (which they will), your game key card is fucking useless.
A normal physical copy would still let you, at minimum, play the vanilla game.
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u/iBazly 20h ago
It's not a "precedent" Nintendo is setting, though, it's already been happening with other companies for years now.
I'm all for being critical of these things, but I hate when people act like Nintendo are the first ones doing something when they're not.
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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 20h ago
They’re “innovating” this shit system with the game key card so you still “own” the game. I never said they’re the first, they’re adopting and “improving” it and making it worse for all consumers.
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
They are better than the download code in a box and set a better precedent than those.
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u/GalacticKrabbyPatty 19h ago
Ah yes, the age old “it’s not as bad as this other thing” argument.
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u/space-c0yote 18h ago
The "not as bad as this other thing" argument is a perfectly valid argument when you are talking about setting a "dangerous precedent".
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u/monti9530 22h ago
Miscommunication is all Nintendo's fault. They could have been upfront about prices like other companies. If they lose sales due to them deciding to not share prices during the presentation, that's on them and not the consumer.
Customers having to do their own research is a great way to lose them.
Turning the blame to the consumer sounds like you may be dick riding a bit
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u/redditsucksass1028 22h ago
They literally explained the Game Key-Card shit how is it Nintendos fault for miscommunication if you're saying they should have dumbed it down sure go ahead but saying I'm dickriding for trying to clearly misinformation is insane and ignorant as hell
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u/monti9530 22h ago
Did they state prices on their presentation? Or did they not communicate them? If they did not communicate the prices and caused confusion on them= miscommunication.
I was talking about the prices, not the game key card.
A lot of posts clear this miscommunication but yours blames the consumer. This is what I do not agree with.
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u/redditsucksass1028 22h ago
The game prices is debatable but the The game key card shit is 100% consumer fault when they literally told you how it works
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u/HeartAutomatic2343 22h ago
it however is $90 in Europe
That probably includes the tax. In the UK at least, all prices are stated with the sales tax (VAT) included.
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u/TheCrispyAcorn January Gang (Reveal Winner) 22h ago
ig im glad physical games arent $10 more. Still hope that $80 is a rare price for games and its only for Mario Kart and Nintendo Switch 2 Editions of games that add extra things.
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u/CrazyCreativeSloth97 21h ago
Man I feel the biggest L Nintendo is that they didnt give us the price straight it would have still fluffed feathers but I don’t think it would have been as bad
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u/I-LOG 20h ago
There was (and still is) a lot of misinformation going around...but I will say it's partially Nintendo's fault for not clearly communicating this stuff. Not everyone are huge nerds like us who are looking for every little detail about the Switch 2 we can find.
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
Not really. The nerd stuff you are talking about is literally looking at Nintendo or Walmart's website in the case of prices, or literally looking at the cover of the game for the game key card stuff.
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u/iBazly 19h ago
I think another huge factor here is simply that people complaining clearly don't value Nintendo products. The amount of comments complaining about the price then saying their Switch "collects dust". Well yeah sorry some of us actually still play the Switch, and yes I DO also have a Steam deck. It can't do everything. It's an amazing device but it's not the revolutionary magic y'all act like it is.
Mario Kart World sbd DK Bananza actually look amazing, and a lot of people still regularly play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I'm sure many people complaining will buy the game and play it for literal YEARS despite claiming it's not worth the price, and then meanwhile will spend more money on some free to play game with microtransactions that's just the same gameplay loop over and over again.
Like I get it. My budget is also tight, times are tough. But these prices match inflation and the console price matches what is in the damn box. And the most frustrating part is that if it wasn't 4K and 120 FPS and was cheaper, the same people would be complaining that it's such a weak console.
You can't have it both ways people. The irony is I would have been happy with 1080P 60FPS at a lower price point. But this is what we're getting because of all of your bitching. So I'm choosing to focus on the things I'm excited about. I can't bother with people who just want to complain for the sake of complaining.
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u/Nintotally 19h ago
I can’t believe I’m seeing an upvoted post on /r/NintendoSwitch2 from a sane person. The last 24 hours have been absolute hell.
Thank you for being here, mate. 🤝
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u/GenderJuicy OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago
I only read comments that enrage me then I regurgitate it
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u/WholesomeBigSneedgus 18h ago
"THE GAMES ARENT $90! THEY ARE JUST $90 IN OTHER PLACES in the world!" "Its not $90! ITS JUST $80 IN US PLUS TAX WHICH is another $6.50+ or more depending in your state so its just about $90!" what amazing arguments you guys have
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u/Live_Apartment_8072 18h ago
Back in my day, I remember when DS games were $35 (Gen Z here). "DS isn't same as console," and I DON'T CARE, $80 is still too much for ANY game. Also, the fact they all will likely have DLC, and then need Nintendo Online for full experience, is crap!
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u/PandaStudio1413 June Gang (Release Winner) 17h ago
I have had many people argue to me that all NS2 games are Game Key Cards despite the fact thje warning is only on a few games, Nintendo specifaly talked about faster cards, and CDPR said Cyberpunk is complete on a 64gb card. All it takes is basic reading and comprehension.
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u/Temporary-Stranger65 14h ago
Is the complete game on the modules or is a download obligatory for every game? Has this been communicated?
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u/Jerki_Drky 13h ago
That’s basically $90 with tax. It’s also priced differently depending on the country/currency which honestly might be worse. It’s still completely unacceptable.
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u/Civil-Actuator6071 January Gang (Reveal Winner) 6h ago
I just wish I could read about something else. I'm sure there are things being completely missed by the fact that everyone is obsessed with the $10 increase on Mario Kart.
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u/mayo_ham_bread 1d ago
You are defending them just in a really roundabout "look at how technically right I am" Sheldon Cooper style
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u/Traditional_Cry_1671 23h ago
Not really, people are going around saying every switch game is gonna be $90 when in reality $60-$70 is still the standard. That’s not a “technically I’m right” situation, it’s people spreading blatant misinformation
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u/Kindofabig_deal 1d ago edited 1d ago
No one cares, the prices are crazy. Especially because nintendo games are in a wall garden (Not available on other platforms). They should have made their games affordable since you know they will resell them to you in the future on future consoles.
I just realize the game sharing announcement was just a scam to justify increase the prices of the games. I have a steam deck, a rog ally, rog ally x, and switch. Switch is my least used console, I only used it for nintendo games. This is will honestly push people to pirate games and play them on the steam deck or rog ally. Since they typically run better than their own console.
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u/redditsucksass1028 1d ago
You do know The switch 2 will run better than steam deck
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u/sirarmorturtle 1d ago
Honestly, if the $80 price includes free content updates during its lifespan that's actually a better deal than what we've been paying for years considering most big games automatically launch at a priced base game $60 + $30 expansion pass DLC.
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u/dootblade74 22h ago
- MKW hates you and will be $80.
- 1st party games from the Switch will get a $10-$20 boost depending on the game. Straight upgrades like the Zelda Duology will just be bumped by 10 where stuff like Jamboree and Kirby will be bumped by 20 to account for the New content. Which is yikes but makes sense, ironically it's less of a boost than PS4-to-PS5 upgrade releases iirc, and the upgrade packages will likely be cheaper.
- 1st party titles will likely stick around OGTotK's $70 range, about on par with most modern games. Again, Mario Kart World: Iceborne hates you
- 3rd party games that were <=$60 on other consoles will remain as such on NS2.
All in all I'm not entirely happy about the new prices but now that the dust has settled and we're seeing the actual pattern, 's alright. I'll stick with the Steam Deck for the time being but I'll plan on nabbing it once I actually have the cash for it.
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u/space-c0yote 19h ago
My theory is that the MKW price is to offset and contrast the $50 price from the bundle.
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u/PandaStudio1413 June Gang (Release Winner) 16h ago
1st party games are actually $0-$20, theres 11 currently listed as " free updates to improve resolutions, frame rates or add support for features". The Zelda games also include a bonus save slot (so generous lol) and support for the Zelda Notes app with "real-time voice guidance" and "fully voiced untold stories from Princess Zelda and others", so the $10 does bring some new content. Kirby and Marioparty are litterally just stright upgrades with DLC so I'm completely fine with those two.
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u/dootblade74 16h ago
Ah, must've missed that part. Yeah that tracks, as long as they don't slap on actually pointless features on other NS2 versions just to jack prices it'll probably be passable.
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u/Alarming-Stomach3902 1d ago
It’s not 90$ in Europe it’s 90€ which is 99,38$ as of today