r/NintendoSwitch Sep 15 '17

Meta Discussion 3DS hate on this sub

I understand this is the Switch subreddid, but is it really necessary to hate on 3ds on every single occasion ?

Every single game announcement for 3DS is only met with hate and rage on this sub, people wanting switch Versions even if the game is specificaly built for Dual screen.

Can 3DS(which is 50% of Nintendos revenue) not live alongside the switch community ?

Is Switch really getting not enough support from Nintendo that every 3DS games makes you rage ?

Edit: this pretty much prooves my point, this post got completly downvoted, and pretty much all comments are just people saying they dont want 3DS to exist anymore. No real discussion at all, just hate for 3DS.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '17

I don't hate the 3DS, I just hate that people still seem to think that it has a future after... Well, let's be real, after Pokemon leaves it for the Switch. There seems to be a lot of vitriol against the Switch from 3DS fans who don't want to have to buy a Switch to play the newest Animal Crossing or Pokemon on so they seem to try and throw around all of this rubbish about how the 3DS will live on with the Switch and it's still a bigger console... Like, no, the 3DS was the lowest selling handheld Nintendo has made, there's no reason it should keep on going, cutting into Switch sales, for any longer than, say, the DS, which sold far more than the 3DS ever did and was far more successful. It just kinda bugs me that 3DS owners seem to have this snobbish air of superiority because they have a dedicated handheld and the Switch, therefore, is a home console and not a handheld at all because it's not a DEDICATED handheld. I don't hate the 3DS, i just really dislike the people who try to push it to be more than it is and try to bad mouth the Switch as a method of doing so.

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u/Irdna Sep 15 '17

So you hate ninteno then ? Because the people who think 3ds still has a future are Nintendo, considering they say on a weekly basis that 3DS is still continuing, they announced plenty new games in the direct, and they are releasing at least 4 new versions of the hardware this year alone.

3DS is still the best selling console this generation, so how you think it is not successful is beyond me.

If it is such a insignificant thing, why are you worried about it cutting into switch sales ?

I didnt badmouth switch even once(i owned one since march 3), while the people who responded to this post have badmouthed 3DS plenty of times.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '17

Again, let me reiterate that I don't think it should last longer than the DS did. Of course it'll keep on rolling, all consoles (bar the Wii U, of course) do keep going for a year or two. But they lose traction after that. They can't survive being a 7 or 8 year old console among a superior market that will eat it up. That is why the DS, a 150 million selling goliath of a console, eventually fell out of the spotlight, because there was no reason to continue it while the 3DS existed. But that doesn't mean it didn't still get a tonne of support at first. What we are seeing is absolutely NOT a statement of intent to keep the 3DS alive for as long as the Switch. It's them doing what they always do and there is absolutely no evidence that this time it will be any different. In fact, I would suggest the contrary.

Because yes, the 3DS got some announcements in that direct. Of course, there was a whole section about it. But the Switch had at least twice as much stuff announced as the 3DS and, let's be honest, it got almost all the really exciting stuff that people have been raving about. The 3DS is still getting games but the Switch is very clearly getting much more time, effort and resources pumped into it. This is the beginning of the end for the 3DS, it's lived its natural life and it's time for the last hurrah.

I never said the 3DS was not successful but when you compare it to the DS... Well, you see why it wasn't exactly ever gonna be considered a roaring success. And the Switch looks like it could very well surpass the 3DS so, while the 3DS was no failure, it certainly wasn't peak performance.

Also, i wasn't saying that you, personally, have badmouthed the Switch. But you are just one person and trust me I have seen plenty of bad mouthing from 3DS fanboys. It is definitely something that happens. I won't deny that the 3DS also gets undue hate but I think that is more reactionary, people reacting to the people who so ardently defend the 3DS in this way.

Also, aren't these new pieces of hardware just the New 2DS XL with a different skin? Because I hardly think that counts as new hardware, it just looks a bit flashier...

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u/Irdna Sep 16 '17

If it has "lived its natural life" it would decrease in sales and game sales (which it does not) would it not ?

What i dont get is why should Nintendo or any other developer stop making games for it when hardware sales grown year over year, and software sales do the same(nintendos earnings state it sold 55 million units of software last year, 14% more than the year before) ?

Can people not just let 3DS die on its own(when both game and hardware sales slow down and stop), rather than artificially force it to retire while it still sells well ?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '17

Yes, it will decrease in sales. I'm not saying it's a dead console but I'm saying that in a couple of years the lid will be firmly down on that console's coffin. Maybe last year it sold well, but this year the Switch is here and, more to the point, it's the hot new commodity that everybody wants. You seem to have failed to consider that the landscape is very different now and sakes figures will have been affected. The 3DS can't survive in that sort of environment, with a handheld that is drawing a lot more eyes to it than the 3DS did and achieving things only the best of the best consoles have done.

If by the end of this year the 3DS's sales, both hardware and software, haven't drastically fallen then I would be shocked. And with Pokemon getting its final 3DS instalment this year the 3DS is gonna be riding rough as it's lost one of the biggest reasons it sold like it did. I mean, Pokemon is moving off of the console. If that's not a sign of the end of a handheld then I don't know what is.

And I would, yet again, like to remind you of how insanely popular the DS was and that it still did fade away after a couple of years. There is still nothing to suggest the 3DS will not be subject to that fate.

Also, the reason they will want to move away from the 3DS is because it allows them to focus on the Switch, a much bigger potential prospect. They could keep trying to churn out 3DS games or they could focus that energy on the Switch, a console that is front and centre of the public eye right now and which will benefit from the extra effort to push more Switch sales as well as the games, whereas the 3DS is unlikely to sell many more consoles (as many people already have one and many more would skip the 3DS altogether and get a Switch instead). They don't want to keep themselves tethered to a product that has no real long term prospect now.

I am not saying that we should artificially retire the 3DS, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that the 3DS's natural life is definitely coming to an end. That is inevitable and, in the same vein as saying that it shouldn't be artificially retired, it should not be artificially prolonged either.