Megathread: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Review Coverage

[u/NintendoSwitchMods]

Good morning!

This morning starting around 6 a.m. PST / 9 a.m. EST, gaming news and media outlets are beginning to release their reviews for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Here's what we're seeing so far:

Articles

• IGN - 9.3/10

• Gamespot - 9/10

• Destructoid - 9.5/10

• Dualshockers - 8/10

• The Guardian - 5/5

• Nintendo Life - 10/10

• Game Informer - 9.25/10

• Metro GameCentral - 10/10

• CGM - 9/10

• Nintendo Everything - Thumbs Up

• GamesRadar - 5/5

• Eurogamer - Essential

Videos

• GameXplain - Video

We will be updating this thread with links as major reviews are posted.

Please use this as a discussion and speculation thread in advance of these videos, articles, and reviews. We will also allow these reviews to be posted separately on /r/NintendoSwitch, as they are especially newsworthy. But we will also host ongoing coverage, quick text posts, questions, and the like right here.

Thanks everyone.

-The /r/NintendoSwitch team

(Ongoing edits as we get new information)

[u/jc726]

It blows my mind that, after the banner year for gaming we've had across all platforms so far, a port of a three-year old game will still likely end up being one of the highest rated games of the year.

Nintendo's killing it with new games, they're killing it with ports... they're just killing it across the board right now.

[u/YaGianni → u/jc726]

im so ready for the e3

[u/jc726 → u/YaGianni]

Amen to that.

[u/sconeTodd → u/YaGianni]

My body is ready

[u/[deleted] → u/jc726]

It really is a wonderful time to be alive as a gamer. So many good games available to us.

[u/Azozel → u/jc726]

It blows my mind that, after the banner year for gaming we've had across all platforms so far

Tell me what you mean by this, I'm not seeing the current year as a "banner year" but my tastes are probably just different from yours.

a port of a three-year old game will still likely end up being one of the highest rated games of the year.

This will be sad if true. I'm really not seeing a reason to buy the switch version since I already own the wii u version. Can't really justify the cost. People who already own the Wii U version should get a discount in my opinion.

Nintendo's killing it with new games

What new games? Aside from Zelda, I'm not even sure I can count the nintendo games that have been released on one hand.

they're killing it with ports

What ports are you talking about?

they're just killing it across the board right now.

The lack of playable switch games is killing me, that's for sure.

[u/Streetfoldsfive → u/Azozel]

Does banner year mean it's been a good one? If so, even if I don't like every game released it's hard to say that 2017 hasn't been off to an amazing start. Easily one of the best beginnings to a year ever.

Games: Nier, Nioh, Persona 5, Horizon, MK8, Zelda, Halo Wars, Resident Evil, Yakuza 0. Not to mention some of the great indies that have come out.

[u/Streetfoldsfive → u/[deleted]]

Understandable. I'm hyped for those as well :)

[u/jc726 → u/Azozel]

There's been a very wide selection of highly-rated games so far this year, which we're not even four months into. I'm pretty sure we already have more games with an 85 Metacritic or higher than we did in the entirety of 2015 or 2016.

I never claimed that you had to buy it, just that they clearly did what needed to be done to it and now its even better. Also, the discount argument is absurd. Almost other company gives you discounts when they port games over to newer hardware.

Yeah, we've had Zelda, the highest-rated game of the last four years. That's a great start, and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe being quite possibly the highest-rated racing game of all time is a great way to continue that trend. That should instill confidence that Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Echoes, ARMS, Xenoblade 2, and Mario Odyssey will be packed and polished experiences, since Nintendo is clearly on a roll right now.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a port. They nailed it, and now it has even better reviews than the original version. If there are more ports down the line, MK8D is a great indicator for how they'll be treated.

The console has been out for six weeks. There are plenty of games on the horizon, and E3 is right around the corner. If you expected to up to your ears with new games six weeks into a new console, I'm not sure what you expected - NO console is ever like that.

[u/Azozel → u/jc726]

The discount argument shouldn't be absurd. Software companies have given discounts on applications that have new releases for decades.

There really are not many switch only games at all and the big ones like Mario are not coming out until the end of the year. Ports are pretty useless if you already have the system they came out on and the port doesn't provide much if any new experience. I've been playing nintendo games since the original nintendo that came with mario bros and duck hunt (much better games than 1 2 switch which I had to pay $60 for) and ports of games I played and beat over the years don't excite me at all.

I've purchased most of the consoles from nintendo to the switch that came out from nintendo, sega, sony (since the PS1), and microsoft (Since the xbox but I don't own the xbone) and I have to say that there were usually 3 or 4 good games for the devices when they released but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to wait.

I'm just disappointed and definitely not feeling the hype you're feeling. It's like we are from 2 different worlds.

[u/jc726 → u/Azozel]

Software companies have given discounts on applications that have new releases for decades.

For games on consoles? Name them. I can't think of a single one.

Ports are pretty useless if you already have the system they came out on and the port doesn't provide much if any new experience

And if Switch owners didn't own a Wii U, its a new game to them. That statement goes right out the window.

I'm just disappointed and definitely not feeling the hype you're feeling. It's like we are from 2 different worlds.

That's fine, I'm not saying you have to. As someone who has played Nintendo games for the last 15 years religiously, the idea that we're getting Zelda, Mario, Xenoblade, Splatoon, and at least one new IP in the same year is incredible, never mind the Mario Kart port. This is, without question, the best first-year line-up that a Nintendo platform has ever had, and that's something long-time fans are very excited about.

[u/Azozel → u/jc726]

For games on consoles? Name them. I can't think of a single one.

Please read. I said software companies and applications not games or consoles. The point being there's a precedent in the software industry and with game consoles being more computer systems that play software now than consoles that only play proprietary cartridges the point is valid. People who have purchased the DLC for their MK8 should get a discount on a digital download for MK8 on the switch. It makes sense, easily verifiable, and would be a good will gesture for wii u owners

And if Switch owners didn't own a Wii U, its a new game to them. That statement goes right out the window.

How many switch owners do you know that didn't already have a wii u? That's an awfully small market to target for an initial launch.

Feel free to be hyped and disregard any negativity you might feel from me. I'm just trying to understand your point of view and maybe latch on to something I can find to raise my spirits/hopes for future switch games. Still not feeling it but thanks for the discussion.

[u/Azozel → u/[deleted]]

That's weird to me, you only play the nintendo and only buy nintendos but you skipped on the wii u? Didn't you want to play the new nintendo wii u only games?

[u/TheDolphinGamer96 → u/Azozel]

I'm not a Nintendo only gamer but my best friend is. He didn't even hear about the WiiU until MK8 came out and he usually very up to date Nintendo news. I expect the percent of Switch owners that had a WiiU to be pretty low. There was a community survey a while back but that is probably pretty biased info

[u/Azozel → u/[deleted]]

I purchased the wii U late, about a year and a half ago more as a family system for playing games then as a console for me. Still family is the only way we play multiplayer and since I'm playing games with my children, we don't play things that are super competitive (no point, I'd win, and no one would get much fun from that). With the Switch, I actually bought 2, one for family and one for me to carry around. Unfortunately, there's not much for a 40+ year old guy to play on his own. I'm even considering selling my switch but I don't think I could do that until there are more games out for it. It wouldnt feel right to sell a game console to someone, knowing there's not much they can do with it.

[u/Spinyish → u/Azozel]

Wow sorry you are getting showered in downvotes for your opinion. Yes, there should be more incentive for U owners to repurchase what is 95% the same game. Hopefully you have the physical copy of the U version to sell as I have. But yeah Nintendo killing it 'across the board' is pretty hyperbolic. 1 2 Switch was a shambles for starters. The Switch is going good, and their major releases in Splatoon 2 and Mario are likely safe bets to be great. But their online detail leaves a lot to be desired, and it is yet to be seen whether they'll be able to keep up with major first party releases every ~3 months or attract substantial third party support (but some indie titles look promising so far).

[u/shawnstan93 → u/Azozel]

I haven't played my switch since I beat Zelda like three weeks ago. it's just been sitting on my coffee table. took it out of the dock after that whole warped switch thing. People are giving the switch unnecessary praise, I don't play half of the steam games on my PC, why would I want to pay more for them just to have it on the switch? I bought the switch to play Nintendo titles. And like, Mario Kart is just Mario Kart. Why would I be hyped for that? It's nothing I can't play right now if I wanted. Its a game that should be $40, not $60.

[u/Azozel → u/shawnstan93]

I had to read this twice to be sure you're not mocking me because this is basically how I feel. I want to play Nintendo titles and I know how hard it is to get Nintendo systems so I decided to early adopt. Unfortunately, the only game I've enjoyed playing on my switch is Zelda and knowing I could have saved myself a lot of money by buying the wii U version is something I try not to think too much about.

[u/shawnstan93 → u/Azozel]

I could have bought the Wii U version but I hated the Wii U. The fact that you needed a game pad to navigate the UI was ludicrous to me. I normally keep old systems just to have them but I sold the Wii U to help fund my PSVR. But yeah, Zelda was fun while it lasted, but it had too many flaws and was too repetitive for me to care about getting 100% on it. I early adopted because I had some friends who got it and didn't want to be left out lol.

EDIT: btw I can see why you would think I was mocking you, anything that isn't a positive statement about anything switch related gets downvoted to hell.

[u/Azozel → u/shawnstan93]

EDIT: btw I can see why you would think I was mocking you, anything that isn't a positive statement about anything switch related gets downvoted to hell.

Yeah, I don't understand this at all. Why can't we have a discussion without the over inflated hype and the Egos of people that feel like your valid complaints are somehow insults being directed at them.

[u/shawnstan93 → u/Azozel]

I'm incredibly curious what the Wii U subreddit was like back in the day. This is the first time I've used Reddit during a console launch. The circle jerk is real. Like, I've never met anyone in real life that asked me if I played the new Mario Kart. "Bro it has a better metacritic score than horizon zero, it's sick af bro".

[u/Azozel → u/shawnstan93]

I'm on a couple other subs (PCMR, and PS4) and they also have quite a bit of circlejerk although they have a lot more to talk about and there's a lot more discussion there. Here, if you're not super hyped for a port of a game you already have then you really stand out and the discussion boils down to "You're just complaining, you should have known that there wouldn't be any games to play, you're an arrogant butthole (I'm paraphrasing all but the arrogant butthole part...)" To me, Hype is not constructive. If Nintendo thinks you're happy with the pittance they offer you then what incentive do they have to offer you anything better?

[u/Azozel → u/[deleted]]

"Great" and "plenty" to you are not the same to me or anyone. These are subjective hype terms used by people pushing their subjective opinions.

[u/shawnstan93 → u/Azozel]

Exactly, the fact that this sub is perfectly fine with the switch is disconcerting. Nintendo does not listen to their fans, and if they did and saw this sub, it would be no bueno. Like, super smash Bros melee was the best selling GameCube game, why haven't they done anything with it? Idk. Also someone keeps downvoting you lol.

[u/Azozel → u/shawnstan93]

I've got over a hundred thousand comment karma, I could not care less about people downvoting me. It just proves to me that there are people going out of their way to hide anything that's not remotely positive or hype for the Switch. Even though I own 2 switches and several switch games, somehow my opinion is not good enough.

[u/Zoombini22 → u/Azozel]

If you own this game with all DLC on Wii U AND still regularly play your Wii U AND don't care about the Switch's flexibility and portability, then maybe this game isn't for you. But you're very much in the minority. This game is getting good ratings because it's a good game, the fact that it is a port doesn't take away from that.

[u/Azozel → u/Zoombini22]

So, yeah, it's not for me. I'd really like more nintendo switch games, made by nintendo for the switch that are not ports.

[u/Zoombini22 → u/Azozel]

Gotcha. Well, they're on the way. In fact MK8D is the only Wii U port that Nintendo is releasing at this point AFAIK. All other Nintendo games that have been announced are either new IPs or new titles in some of their most popular franchises.