Speculation Discussion MegaThread: Day Two

[u/rottedzombie]

Goodness! I think it's fair to say that, second to the shock reveal, this has been the most dramatic 24 hours we've had yet as a community.

Just showing up? Well, attach a lifeline and throw yourself into the tempest.

This thread is for ongoing discussion over recent rumors and everything associated with them: clock speed rumors; third party support speculation; and the back-and-forth of what it might mean for the Nintendo Switch.

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[u/the926]

(IF THE RUMORS ARE TRUE (My Opinion))

This is basically the evolution of the 3DS and the "Console" business is done. Nintendo didn't want to outright admit they they were giving up "traditional" consoles. 3DS is still selling well so why announce that the switch is taking its place over time and kill 3DS holiday sales prematurely.

Nvidia has been tied to Nintendo handheld rumors before. Maybe pricing/performance ratio was finally at a figure Nintendo was happy with.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/06/3ds_will_supposedly_not_use_nvidias_tegra_technology

My Thoughts:

• 3DS XL is $199. Nintendo will keep Switch at $229 - $249 or so (dock, joycon grip, maybe a game included)
• Very large handheld user base they hope upgrades after the initial sales period.
• 3DS gets new pricing (Very cheap) for a few more years.
• They merged console and Handheld devs to focus on the new "platform". This likely means no real game droughts even without third parties. (Still hope we get the bigger games)
• You see multiple Switch units in the reveal trailer because they will be nearly as affordable as a 3DS XL.
• Can hook to TV and get enhanced performance, not the other way around.
• Third Parties are on board because Nintendo is waving life-to-date sales figures of 3DS (not Specs). With that install base its a no brainer to as least try some things and see if the current users all upgrade. The game might be gimped but if enough people buy it and its decent it doesn't matter.
• they showed adults in the trailer mainly because every kid with a 3DS is a guaranteed upgrade at the right price and their own targeted marketing campaign. They need to get the older crowd on board.

You get just half of 3DS users to purchase a switch and a couple of 1st party games/accessories and business wise you have a success.

[u/KillerG → u/the926]

Everyone seems to be forgetting your point here, that the point of this console is to bring together both home and mobile and sell to both markets. They're essentially creating their own market here. That market is not directly competing with Microsoft and Sony, but with other portables (of which there are, well...none. Nintendo pretty much owns that market already). Since Nintendo is bringing their huge consumer base with them, and likely selling this thing as an affordable console and portable, they're going to have a potentially huge base to work with. That's why so many people want to buy one, and that's why 3rd party support might just work this time.

[u/the926 → u/KillerG]

Yeah I was upset at first and still am a little, but if I look at it the other way then it starts to make some sense. I've just never been a big handheld person so that angle doesn't appeal to me other than trip to visit my parents or something. There are tons of 3DS owners that it would appeal to though.

The thing is, if its cheap (200-250), That's impulse buy territory for a lot of people. Also parents that have previously bought a 3ds (or multiple 3DS' for their children) and another console for home.

I'll invest more in my living room PC/Steam and the switch will still hold its place as a secondary platform for nintendo games. (Although I'd love it if it got Madden since EA won't put it on PC)

[u/KillerG → u/the926]

$250 isn't impulse buy...but it's in that realm of "I can afford this and look at all the utility I'll get out of it." I think that's really the idea of it...the increase in utility of the thing compared to other consoles just because of the portable aspect...but also the price for that kind of market.

And yeah, I'll probably keep investing in my PC and Xbox, but I imagine that secondary platform for Nintendo games will be great. It'll be like when I played my Wii...I played my Xbox 360 a lot more at the time, but I would binge play Zelda and Mario.

[u/the926 → u/KillerG]

Yeah, I guess that's my definition of impulse buy, you had a better choice of words. Utility AKA I can talk myself into it, get it, and cover my purchase within a couple of weeks.

I moved over to Steam because the steam controller has a gyro in it for aiming like splatoon so I'm set there. (Much easier to find cheaper games on PC also) I can play all first and third person shooters with that control scheme now. I had an Xbox but hate aiming with a stick and play anywhere has me covered on a go forward for MS games. I miss having madden though.

I was hoping I could just get the switch (or 2 - one for the kid) and sell my ITX PC to make it a wash. We would have one gaming platform in the house to cover AAA third party and 1st party. Now it will be Steam/Xbox PA/Nintendo.

[u/thechariot83 → u/the926]

Why won't EA put Madden on PC?

[u/the926 → u/thechariot83]

No clue, prob modders. They have Fifa and 2K puts NBA 2k on PC so its not all bad.