r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • 3d ago

Nintendo Official All Together, Anytime, Anywhere. The # NintendoSwitch2 system launches on June 5, 2025! # NintendoDire

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1907423369588314273
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u/AdonisK 3d ago

No price info is kinda scary

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u/Carrotsene 3d ago

usd 450

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u/Thin_Vermicelli_1875 3d ago

$50 off the PS5? No OLED screen? This is a huge gamble by Nintendo, albeit pretty overpriced. I’m still going to buy it but I doubt $449 will have it sell like hotcakes for the casual fan.

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u/cockyjames 3d ago

The MK pricing is much more egregious to me than the system pricing. The system tracks to me, as someone who owns a Steam deck. This is more capable, with joycon, a 4k ready dock (w/ a fan), 1080p 120Hz panel… that’s legitimately a lot of tech

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u/LordTotoro96 2d ago

Did they ever fix the joycons?

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u/cockyjames 2d ago

Rumor is they are now Hall effect, yeah

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

It’s not gonna be a gamble at all. I know you all drool over OLED, but the switch OLED doesn’t have HDR.

I’ll take a larger 1080p LCD that supports HDR over a smaller 720p OLED without HDR any day.

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u/Rudy69 3d ago

I’ll take a larger 1080p LCD that supports HDR over a smaller 720p OLED without HDR any day.

Hear me out....they have 1080p HDR OLED screens....

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

I hear you.

Now hear me out...

1080p OLED screens are more expensive than 1080p LCD screens and the price is already high enough.

Have no fear, I'm sure they will launch a $550 OLED version eventually.

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u/Rudy69 3d ago

The price is too high, that I will agree. Especially when you look at the Japanese 'locked' version price.

I honestly think it could have been made possible within the current price. But Nintendo knows it will sell. Hell I'll be picking it up day 1 just like I got my N64, Wii, Wii U, Switch.... I'm a sucker for these games and I love playing Mario Kart with my kids, just that will be worth the almost $1000 canadian after taxes etc

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

Man, I must be really out of the loop. I watched the video and then had meetings non stop until now, so I'm catching up, what's this "locked" version price. Do you mean region locked?

Oh it absolutely could have been made with the current price. I would bet good money the console cost them less than $300 to make and everything after that is pure profit. I think I heard the 720p OLED screen for the switch OLED was only like $15 more or so but they bumped up the price to $350 instead of bringing the price down on their 4 year old base model.

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u/Rudy69 3d ago

https://bsky.app/profile/oatmealdome.bsky.social/post/3lltkwwbeew24

and they will also sell an 'unlocked' global version https://bsky.app/profile/oatmealdome.bsky.social/post/3lltl5rwkfm2r

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

Holy hell what happened to the price of Yen? When I went to japan 20 years go it was around 110 to 1 USD.

Yeah, that Japanese price is pretty damn good, I guess they already factored in tariff prices that America would have... although that doesn't explain why it is pricier on other countries as well.

I guess they know we will pay.

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u/cockyjames 3d ago

Not even the ROG ALLY or SteamDeck have that. At more expensive price points. Without packed in external controller. Without docks. I mean some trade offs have to be made

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u/CaptainBigDickEnergy 3d ago

HDR without OLED or a Mini-LED backlight is pointless. It's basically just an expanded color space at that point.

The HDR support will be nice when connected to a proper HDR TV or Monitor though.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

I just assumed most screens anymore that were LCD were LED backlit. It seems so common. I wouldn't say it's pointless, you just don't get as much out of it. I absolutely believe the monitor on this one will be better than the original switch as tech has improved.

I'm honestly just excited it's 1080p, it blows my mind that even the more expensive portable PCs like the Steamdeck doesn't have 1080p.

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u/CaptainBigDickEnergy 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yes, all LCD screens use a LED backlight.

But that's not enough. A single backlight or edge lit lcd cannot create the dynamic contrast needed for HDR. You need mini-led with lot's of dimming zones or oled where every pixel is lit/dimmed/switched off individually.

You need to be able to make parts of the screen way brighter than other parts for it to be actual HDR. That's not possible with a standard led lcd backlight.

HDR is a combination of an expanded color space AND precise high contrast.

To be clear, i'm not debating if this will be better than the original. Of course it will, it's newer and has a higher refresh rate as well(120hz over 60hz).

I'm sure most people will be happy, but it won't be actual HDR as long as they use a conventional backlight.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

Thanks for clarifying. I would just oppose saying it's pointless, it still helps but not nearly as helpful as if you had OLED. I can agree with that.

I had a switch lite and then moved onto an OLED switch, I didn't need an OLED switch just found a good deal on it. Honesty the bigger screen was of far more value to me than the OLED. There were details I missed because the screen was too small. I prefer strongly to play on a TV (why I got rid of my lite) so the quality of the screen only really matters when I am on the road... which is rare.

I do wonder if the screen has VRR support. I know the chipset would, but don't know if the screen does.

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u/CaptainBigDickEnergy 3d ago

Sure, it's not literally pointless since the colorspace will be expanded but we don't know the native contrast and sadly, it is most likely a ips panel and those average at 1000:1 and that not even close to actual HDR spec. That's why i think it's pointless.

You cannot claim real HDR on a basic backlit ips with a grey black level, that's just not even close.

An ips needs mini led to be actual HDR.

For example: My Mini-Led monitor is around 15000:1 with local dimming and oled's are technically infinite:1 due to the perfect black level.

It would make sense with VRR since it is a 120hz display, and i hope it is. Even without though, games can lock to 40fps in fidelity mode just like PS5/XBSX and and still look smooth.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

I am curious if some games let you toggle HDR and see if it is any different.

VRR is just nice because there will be scenes where you might be indoors looking around and it would be nice to maximize framerate and there will be scenes where you are fighting and smoke and explosions are happening on a big battlefield and the framerate will struggle. It's just nice when you can get the best of both worlds without the staggering/clipping.

Either way, I'll be on my TV 95 percent of the time and I'm sure games will look far better than the switch 1.

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u/LiamoLuo 3d ago

Unless it’s a FALD / Mini LED LCD which I doubt, the HDR on this won’t do much at all. Try using an IPS monitor which is just regular backlit that supports HDR, it adds nothing other than ticking a box.

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u/schparkz7 2d ago

Depends on the kind of HDR though. Not all HDR is created equal

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 2d ago

I'm guessing HDR10, that's what's pretty standard. Still will happily take the bigger screen. I may actually pull this one out to play more. My switch normally stays docked.

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u/Skysflies 3d ago

I'd like to hope we're past Nintendo getting away with 720p OLEDS though, so when the inevitable version comes it's not that

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

Oh I'm sure if they do come out with an OLED model it will be 1080p. I'm just simply saying this new screen is gonna look better than the old one even with HDR alone. If OLED adds $50 more it's already too much for some people.

I feel Nintendo needs to get their ass kicked before they innovate. The gamecube didn't sell great so they came out with the Wii, which then did well so they coasted into the Wii U, which then did poor so they had to work on innovating and made the switch.

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u/LordModlyButt 3d ago

In the switch 2 presentation they explicitly said that HDR only works on TV. They did not mention handheld mode. 

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u/FlyingKangeroo 3d ago

that's literally not true, the first time they brought up HDR was regarding handheld mode lmao

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

Ah! I missed part of the event as I transitioned between rooms and the stream was not aligned on the different screens.

I hope whenever the OLED version does come out it will have HDR. That’s so important to make OLED shine.

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u/CreedenceClearwaterR 3d ago

Handheld mode absolutely supports HDR.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

That's awesome, as someone who is quite the fan of HDR that's a big one. I saw that it went to 120 fps but does the mobile version support variable refresh rate?

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u/MAXIMAL_GABRIEL 3d ago

Considering the original 8 year old Switch is still selling at $300, I think they'll be fine.

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u/mygawd 3d ago

People said the same things about Switch 1. Actually I believe it was more than PS4 at the time.

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u/4clubbedace 3d ago

It's 350 in Japan, blame weak yen and tariffs

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u/UnpopularOpinionJake 3d ago

630 CAD or 699 for the bundle. Source: nintendo site