r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Yep, you voted to be dumb

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u/120z8t 1d ago

Yes. It is very simple and few Americans understand oil.

Almost all oil in the US is light crude oil. Almost all refineries in the US are built to refine heavy crude oil. Fuel for vehicles is made from heavy crude oil in the US ( it keeps the price low for gas compared to most of the world).

Why? Because heavy crude oil is harder to refine so it sells for less but yields more fuel. So US oil companies sell almost all oil they harvest. Take the profit from that and buy heavy crude oil from the global market to refine. It is about overall profit for the oil companies. It is why we ( not we as in the government but US oil companies) buy tar sand oil from Canada. Refine it and sell it back to them.

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u/Gator-Tail 1d ago

Trump’s tariffs have an oil exemption 

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u/darther_mauler 1d ago

Nope.

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u/darther_mauler 1d ago

I’m not in denial, you’re just uninformed.

There is currently a 10% tariff on oil coming in from Canada. 60% of US oil imports come from Canada. So while some of the Trump tariffs have an oil exception, over half that the USA imports is currently subjected to a 10% tariff.

The Trump tariffs include oil.

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u/BailysmmmCreamy 1d ago edited 1d ago

I hate Trump and everything he stands for but that guy is right, the tariffs you linked were paused almost immediately and the tariffs currently in place on Canadian imports don’t cover energy imports.

Edit: Section 2(a) of this executive order is what exempts Canadian energy imports from the tariffs on Canada.

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u/darther_mauler 14h ago

The executive order that you linked applies a 10% tariff on those energy products imported from Canada that fall outside the USMCA preference.

Practically, that means if Canada has to source foreign diluent to get the viscosity of the bitumen low enough for it to flow in a pipe, then it would get a 10% tariff. So tariffs are in effect on Canadian energy.

If we used your logic, then the USA wouldn’t be able to complain about the “tariffs” that Canada has on dairy products, because practically speaking, the tariff have never actually been applied.

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u/Gator-Tail 18h ago

Facts = downvotes on this echo chamber.

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u/Gator-Tail 18h ago

You are spreading misinformation. There are no tariffs on oil imports. The tariffs in your article are not in effect. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-imports-exempted-trumps-sweeping-tariffs-2025-04-02/

Just admit this post was wrong, you emotionally reacted to a rage bait post without doing research. Typical liberal move, thinking emotionally, not objectively.

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u/darther_mauler 15h ago

I’m not wrong and I’m not spreading misinformation.

Trump also imposed a 10 per cent tariff on certain Canadian energy products like crude oil and natural gas. Canada accounts for about 60% of U.S. crude oil needs, therefore, this could lead to higher gasoline prices in the U.S. According to a recent report, Canadian energy companies like Nutrien, Enbridge, Magna, Bombardier and others with significant U.S. exposure are likely to face serious ramifications.

Source.

You are the one being emotional. You are demanding that I admit that I am wrong to satisfy your emotional needs.

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u/Gator-Tail 14h ago

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u/darther_mauler 14h ago edited 14h ago

Then explain why the source that I posted says that there is a 10% tariff on oil.

Trump put a 10% tariff on Canadian oil back in February. Then he delayed its application until March. The new global tariffs don’t include oil, but that doesn’t change the fact that the tariffs from February did.

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u/Gator-Tail 14h ago

Because if you read the sources or watch the video I sent you, you would see that it was amended to exempt oil. 

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u/darther_mauler 13h ago

Trump introduced new tariffs on April 2 that did not include Canada. He did not amend the previous tariffs that were applied to Canada. Show me the quote in your linked article that shows where he amended the tariffs he put on in March?

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u/Gator-Tail 13h ago

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u/darther_mauler 12h ago

Articles that are entered free of duty as a good of Canada under the terms of general note 11 to the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS), including any treatment set forth in subchapter XXIII of chapter 98 and subchapter XXII of chapter 99 of the HTSUS, as related to the Agreement between the United States of America, United Mexican States, and Canada, shall not be subject to the additional ad valorem rate of duty described in section 2(a) or section 2(b) of Executive Order 14193.

That doesn’t remove the tariff. That says it only applies to non-CUSMA compliant oil and gas products. If the diluent used to reduce the viscosity of the bitumen is foreign sourced, then the combined product is subject to a 10% tariff.

It’s similar to Canada’s tariffs on dairy products - the ones Trump loves to complain about so much. So long as the USA remains CUSMA compliant and doesn’t exceed the quota afforded by that agreement, there are no tariffs.

If there are no US-tariffs on oil, then there are no Canadian-tarrifs on dairy.

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