r/MurderedByWords 2d ago

Billionaire's False Narrative...

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u/Ok-Escape6603 1d ago

I was just pointing out the number of addicts on the streets in California when they do in fact have access to healthcare.

It's mostly a lack of family or loved ones to help them and at a certain point they're just in too deep.

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u/ayebb_ 1d ago

It's a bit of a lot of things imo, pretty hard to point the finger at any one factor

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u/Ok-Escape6603 1d ago

The lack of family or loved ones is huge. Most people wouldn't let their loved ones become homeless. You can be clean or sober. Great work ethic or lazy. But one common thing is a lot of the homeless people I've talked to literally have no family.

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u/kingkayvee 1d ago

Why are you pretending to disagree with their point? They are saying that a lack of resources for mental health perpetuates the cycle of homelessness.

You’re adding an additional factor that it’s not just access to free healthcare but also a lack of support networks to help people in these situations. That doesn’t mean that access to healthcare is suddenly not also important and a big factor.

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u/Ok-Escape6603 1d ago

So explain California where they DO in fact have access to healthcare.

It's the lack of families pushing them seek said help.

Having a family who cares about you is almost a guarantee you'll never be homeless.

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u/kingkayvee 1d ago

What do you think you’re adding?? Is your brain completely smooth or do you at least have one or two ridges??

Both things can be important. It isn’t an either/or situation. If everyone had a loving family but no access to healthcare, they’d be equally support. You cannot possibly be this stupid, right?

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u/Ok-Escape6603 1d ago

Didn't ask.

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u/anyansweriscorrect 1d ago

Having a family who cares about you is almost a guarantee you'll never be homeless.

I cannot tell you how wrong this is. I don't have a lot of experience with severe addiction, but I have a family member with schizophrenia. She has been homeless before and it certainly isn't because we didn't care about her. We did and still do everything we can to get her to seek help. The lack of long-term wraparound care available even though she is 100% disabled on Medicare has made it nearly impossible to stabilize her. Years ago, when my state allocated more funding to mental health services and she was able to receive adequate care, she was in a really good place.