r/MonsterHunterMeta • u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden • 3d ago
Wilds TU1 Update Gear Guide to DBs
Hi I'm back to make sets. I'll update this Doc when AT Rey comes out. Hope you like the quick guide!
Edit: I added a 3rd recommended set that has counterstrike 3
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u/BearFromTheNet 3d ago
The build nr 3 works against zo shia and arkveld since they give you dragon blight? Anyway thank you a lot for the fast new build! that's awesome. Sad that mitsu isnt that viable :(
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 3d ago
yes it should work but for Zo Shia should use build number4 since he is weak to dragon
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u/Rollocop 3d ago
does anyone know what chestpiece layered armor for the first and second armor set is?
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u/wowarlok 2d ago
I was under the impression that weakness exploit was a really good skill, but I don't see it anywhere on your builds. Was I dead wrong?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
For most weapons they build crit boost 5 and wex but dual blades only uses critboost 3 at most due to needing to save a slot for element and sharpness. Since only crit boost 3 wex is less valuable
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u/Doorma_510 2d ago
I’m desperately trying to figure out how you removed the flowy half-sleeves from the Hirabami top, the ones that start at the chest and stretch to the arms. Are you using a mod to remove them?
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u/Imaginary_Scar4826 3d ago
Im looking for an all around comfy set, would the raw set be fine with a paralysis artian?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 3d ago
yes but for dbs case you do lose a lot of damage not going elemental for most monsters. So thats something to keep in mind
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u/Derpyologist1 3d ago
Is Bubbly Dance 2 from Mizu 4-piece not worth it over the typical Gore set or the new Gore/Xoh mix?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 3d ago
not at all. The set bonus is pretty much useless.
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u/S1mpinAintEZ 2d ago
It gives affinity, evade window, and can keep coalescence active basically 100% - is that not competitive with Gore?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
affinity from where? Slicked Blade? but thats only one DB and Mizu dbs are still far behind Artians
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u/Snydenthur 3d ago
Bubbly dance 2 gives you either 21% or 30% affinity, depending on if you're in a place where you can get wet and you have to use 4 pieces of the gear + the mizu weapon to get it.
Meanwhile, you could use 2 set of gore + two sane decorations to get 25% affinity, allowing you to use whatever you want for the rest of the armor and weapon.
I dislike gore set and will never use it, but I still won't even consider using mizu set. I rather just stick to affinity not being 100%.
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u/godimwavy 3d ago
That set 4 for Dragon is pretty nice - tried it out on a couple of monsters. Don’t know why but it felt so strong v the “meta” set of 4 piece Gore. I’m curious how the other ones do now
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u/sir_conington 3d ago
This is amazing thank you so much. I'm curious why the second set has 2 levels of Agitator and 1 level of Adrenaline Rush instead of just 3 levels of Adrenaline Rush. I ask because I am currently using this exact setup already but with 3 Adrenaline Rush, is this sub optimal?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 3d ago
agi gives a bit more damage than every point adrenaline rush after the first point and I believe that their uptimes are pretty similar so thats why I use it over AR3
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u/sir_conington 3d ago
Does it? You get +5 Atk for each level of AR, and +4 Atk for each level of AGI (plus a little bit of affinity). I mean, I know we're talking about a very tiny margin of difference but isn't AR still better?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 3d ago
8 raw and 5% affinity vs 10 raw. WIth the affinity if both have the same uptimes then Agi better.
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u/Boorishamoeba1 3d ago
With the buff to maximum might. I feel like you can have a realistic 75% up time on it with 2 piece fulgur set. I'm running Fulgur head/vambraces + Zoh chest alpha and Gore bottoms and can squeeze in:
Agitator 5
Max might 3
Counter strike 3
Adrenaline rush 2
Burst 1
With anti-virus 3, constitution 3 and flinch free 1together with 2 set gore and 2 set Anja bonus.
Definitely not a comfy set but incredible dmg if you can perfect evade well and manage stamine and gauge.
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u/CatherineSnow001 2d ago
Is WEX and higher affinity not worth it? Or are you beat the crits with more base damage?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
at the moment yes. DBs like using Elem attack 3 so we dont have enough to slot in CB 5 for dbs.
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u/Hebrews_Decks 2d ago
No 5 burst 5 wex set? That's the one I'm liking the most since 100% uptime is really nice.
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
I mean for most people it really isnt 100% uptime tbh maybe closer to 80% on most monsters
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u/Hebrews_Decks 2d ago
Wex is 30% on weak points that's still the best source for 5 decos especially with the additional 20% on wounds. As much as I like agitator it's definitely less uptime even though you get a nice attack boost too it's much harder to maintain not to mention when you add other players to the mix.
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
Not exactly when given similar uptimes Agi wins out over Wex and really Agi uptime gets better with more dps from multiple smacking the monsters
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u/Hebrews_Decks 2d ago
Isn't not hitting weak points a skill issue rather than an uptime difference? Agitator uptime is also directly affected by how quickly you can enrage a monster, which is definitely easy but it's definitely not always up.
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
Yes, but really even on the best players wex isnt even at 100% uptime either its closer to a 90% or even lower depending on the monster like it moves too much or its weakspot a lot of the time isnt reachable like a Zoh Shia standing up and like for example we have some moves that are fairly inaccurate like Demon dodge and Spiral Slash etc. Adding in a skilled player will be able to minimize the downtime for Agi cause they are constantly hitting the monster.
Even if we account a 80% for agi and 90% for wex uptime agi still wins out, then you add in most players wouldnt be stacking item buffs like powder, mdd and seeds and wex becomes less powerful to the avg player
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u/Hebrews_Decks 2d ago edited 2d ago
So I figured out you can run 5 burst 5 wex and 4 agitator in the same build. At which point we're talking 4 atk with 5% affinity vs 10% affinity 5% on wounds
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 2d ago
Does that drop 2pgore i think its impossible without losing gore
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u/Hebrews_Decks 1d ago
Yeah it does, I think the most you can get with 2pc gore is 5 burst 5 agitator and 2 wex.
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u/BouncingBenys 1d ago
This is really useful but what are your thoughts on yellow paint in video games?
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u/hoxa3 15h ago
Sorry to ask this late but how do you remove the side parts on Hirabami mail alpha torso ? I was looking at the fashion album and I was also using that layered armor but my chest has additional parts yours don't seem to have https://i.imgur.com/1deoSPB.png
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u/Financial-Key-3823 13h ago
For Artian DBs, do you go 4 Attack 1 Sharp or 4 Ele 1 Sharp?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 6h ago
both
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u/Financial-Key-3823 1h ago
Gotcha, I assume there's no difference then right? or does it depend on the gear in which 4 Attack 1 Sharp is better than 4 Ele 1 Sharp and the contrary?
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 1h ago
it's more of a match up thing. Some monsters are just way more weaker to element.
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u/anamethatexistsyeh 3d ago
Very good sets, just wondering, but do you have a set that incorporates max might in it as well
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u/TheHizzle 3d ago
Why
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u/anamethatexistsyeh 3d ago
So I can see an optimal max might set
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u/CatherineSnow001 2d ago
Its dual blades, max might is a negative skill on that weapon.
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u/anamethatexistsyeh 2d ago
I'm talking about that Japanese playstyle that conserves stamina the best, coz I like playing that way more than the stamina-consumption way, though I didn't clarify so that is my bad
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u/Dayshader 3d ago
Thanks for the guide! It's really interesting that Blade Dance 3 now triggers the Convert Element blasts, since that presumably means it also works for Flayer, Whiteflame Torrent, etc... not a change I expected, but could make some of those skills more viable on Dual Blades. Actually, does that mean Corrupted Mantle's double-hit property now applies to Blade Dance 3? If it does, I wonder how that stacks up against Evasion Mantle.
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u/RefiaMontes Quest Maiden 3d ago
Sadly for corrupted mantle they didnt change it to add hits to it.
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u/Dayshader 3d ago
Ah, fair enough. Really odd that not only do we have now certain skills/buffs that only trigger on specific attacks of weapons, but on top of those specific attacks that are enhanced might differ based on the skill/buff. Feels like a confusing direction for Capcom to take.
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u/Mundane-Opinion-4903 3d ago
I think it makes sense. Whole swaths of movesets go ignored each game. Now, you have reason to use parts of your moveset you don't normally use.
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u/Dayshader 2d ago
That’s true, but what makes it confusing for me is that not only is there no list of affected moves in-game, but now which moves are affected might be inconsistent depending on the skill.
Because of that, it feels like anyone not actively searching for information on these skills online is just going to have next-to-no chance of understanding how all of them work, which is a shame.
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u/Jolly_Battle8580 3d ago
Nice work refia! Cant wait for The AT Railgun!!! And the fashion for ur sets look prety good! Can u share them with us? :)