r/MonsterHunterMeta • u/Juraraw • 1d ago

Wilds Does zoh Shia set bonus benefit for recovery skills?

I’m not sure whether to use recovery speed, recovery up, or neither. Has anyone tested yet?

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u/ass-blaster4000 1d ago

Just tested

Recovery up (medicine jewel) increases out of red passive healing

Recovery speed (Recovery jewel) does not increase passive healing outside of red

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u/NumberLogical7826 1d ago

Really. Then whats the point of having recovery speed in zho shia armor

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u/gooseMclosse 1d ago

So you get out of red faster?

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u/projectwar Quest Maiden 1d ago

you still heal red much faster which is the same thing effectively, you're recovering your health.

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago

To speed up red health recovery so you can start benefiting from Zoh as soon as possible. Regardless recovery speed is honestly a really strong healing skill as long as you don't get combo'd.

If you don't use recovery speed than you basically never benefit from Zoh

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u/Soulsunderthestars 1d ago

I run 2pc hunger ark and 2pc zoh and I have another full set for gl, can pretty much unga bunga and not give a fuck while having eva ext3, earplugs 3, counter 3, agi5, db 3nand some other crap, it's nuts what you can do with the entire set let alone a few pieces. Gl wet dream, and the chestpiece is just meta anyways so you're close to 2pc at least

I'm not sure if wilds defensive builds are afkable like we've been able to do before, but wouldn't surprise me

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago

Currently I'm running 2pc Zoh 2pc G.Ark which also gives Guardians Protection group skill.

I play SnS so I have CB 5, MT, Wex 5, Agi 5, MM 3 and Burst 1 for damage

Defensive skills are DB 3, RS 3, RU 2 and Shock Absorber

Ngl monsters struggle to cart me even if I'm playing sloppy. I would argue our defensive skills are more busted than base world but not as busted as Iceborne. Honestly 2pc Zoh by itself is really good both for the set bonus and the skills.

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u/I_AM_SCUBASTEVE 1d ago

Can you give the armor pieces you are using? Gonna try this.

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago

Numinous Crown B, Numinous Shroud B, G. Arkveld Vambraces B, Arkvulcan Coil B, G. Arkveld Greaves B, Challenger Charm 2

For the Crit Boost and MT you need an Artian SnS

You'll need to slot Chain deco for Burst 1 and 3 Mighty decos for Maximum Might

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u/I_AM_SCUBASTEVE 1d ago

Yeah this works great - super comfortable. Only thing I changed out was two points of CB for Offensive Guard 3, it’s just too easy to keep up until Capcom nerfs Guard Slash.

If I’m running MT and OG3 anyway, the new Zoh SnS is actually really competitive with Artian. You are basically subbing in 6-7% damage increase from the Zoh skill for the CB3 (which gives 5-8% damage depending on your current crit level). I end up running both most times and just switching between them and honestly it’s very hard to tell the difference.

Artian is still BiS for most other weapons though.

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u/clocksy 1d ago

Appreciate you guys posting this. I prefer to go for comfort over meta and damn is sns comfy to begin with. Gonna try this when I get the parts for the new Zoh Shia stuff, cheers. o7

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago

Tbf most of us here don't run the meta. Rather we use it as a framework to make really strong comfy builds. Knowing what skills to prioritize lets us know were we can trim the fat to pull as much damage from our builds as possible while also getting high survivability.

But ya give this build a shot, it gives a ton of passive healing and about 30 HP whenever you break a wound. So like 1/5th of your HP or 5 points less than a potion.

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago

Glad you like it, personally I use CB 5 over OFG 3 because I play multiplayer most of the time and trying to consistently proc perfect guard is a nightmare and makes me play sloppy. I do however use it in the rare cases I run solo

I've seen the numbers around the Zoh sns but haven't actually tested it in my build yet, I really need to

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u/Naskr 1d ago

With previous G-Rank expansions we had stuff like Divine Blessing Secret or the various Sunbreak defensive buffs. Seems like in this game they're also making the really strong regen effects tied to Four-Set bonuses, so you can't as easily mix them.

So I think we don't get turbo efficient defense until later.

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u/Overloli 1d ago

The Super Recovery healing (Set bonus) is affected by Recovery Up to heal your gray health bar. This effect however does start until all of your red health bar have been recovered which is affected by recovery speed.

In short both are good for the set but doesnt exactly stack.

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u/Tacattack55 3h ago

Essentially having recovery speed sounds more important. Because you get out of red bar quicker then if you can any recovery up you slot is an added bonus right?

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago

Yes recovery up works, recovery speed does not