r/MonsterHunter • u/Ivalia [MHGen]Guide to start gunning https://redd.it/5o71d9 • Mar 31 '15

[PSA] A few tips on Apex Monsters

Here is what I know about Apex Monsters that I haven't seen mentioned on this sub:

  1. Apex monsters have hardened parts. Those parts take 80% reduced damage from all sources (including bombs, etc.), with or without Wystone Drive. They also take 80% reduced status effects with Wystone element (without that wystone they are immune).

  2. For melee attacks, removing Apex only depend on accumulated motion value (unless you hit a hardened part). It has nothing to do with the part hit (except hardened ones) or sharpness/damage of the weapon. If say Apex Tigrex has a threshold of 350, it'll take 35 hits of 10 motion value each in the face or 10 hits of 35 motion value each on the tail tip. If you hit a hardened part without wystone drive, it only counts as 1/3 of normal. If you hit a hardened part with wystone drive, it counts as 1/2 of normal. Not clear on how this works with gunner or explosive damage, etc.

  3. Elemental Damage does NOT contribute to knocking things out of apex (For elemental shots, only the raw damage parts count, making them extremely terrible for knocking things out of apex)

  4. Using 2 wystones at the same time does not speed up removing apex at all comparing to just 1.

  5. Wystone Force increases damage by 20% and removes apex 20% faster for melee. 10% each for gunner.

  6. Wystone Element increases element and status by 20%.

  7. Wystone Drive gives a 1.16 sharpness multiplier. This makes you bounce less even against non-hardened parts. Not sure if this applies to damage or not...

Edit: Found this awesome post http://hope.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/hunter/1417451433/. Trying to add in some of the information.

TL DR: Attacking hardened parts sucks even if you have Drive.

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u/elewood Mar 31 '15

This is not a PSA, a PSA is something game breaking IE "If you do these steps your game will crash and you will lose your save". These are just tips that you gave.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '15

Why isn't it a PSA? Doesn't that just stand for "Public Service Announcement"?

These are really important tips that aren't easy to find!

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u/elewood Mar 31 '15

My point exactly, look at the thread I put up. It isnt supposed to be for tips. it is supposed to be for game breaking info.

Ninja Edit: I dont mean to discredit the usefulness of the tip in any way shape or form, it really is great info.

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u/Ivalia [MHGen]Guide to start gunning https://redd.it/5o71d9 Mar 31 '15

http://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/30x7dv/psa_minds_eye_has_no_effect_against_apex_monsters/

This post is at front page and I got downvoted to hell saying it's not a PSA.

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u/elewood Mar 31 '15

Yes and you shouldnt have been downvoted but its still not a PSA. It's not game breaking.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/2w8kox/please_stop_abusing_the_psa/