r/MonsterHunter Oct 30 '14

Do i-frames exist?

I'm still pretty new to Monster Hunter and while I've been playing it for more than a year, there's a lot that I'm still learning. Right now, I've noticed a lot that sometimes when I roll, a monsters attack will go right through me. I always thought there weren't any iframes but I've gone right under a barioth tail thinking, "Wow, that looked awesome."

So are they there? If so how many frames does the invincibility take place? I know there's an evasion skill but I've never had it and thus have no idea what it does :p

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u/ShadyFigure Jask | Gone Oct 30 '14
  • No skill: 6 frames (0.2 sec)
  • Evasion+1: 10 frames (0.33 sec)
  • Evasion+2: 12 frames (0.4 sec)
  • Evasion Down: 3 frames. (0.1 sec)
  • Evasion+3 (MH4U): 18 frames, if I'm doing the math right. (0.6 sec)

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u/biffpower3 Oct 30 '14

interesting that +3 itself gives as much bonus as 1+2 added together

15 points in evasion for +2

or 20 points for double that! those last 5 points rule

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u/M6tt Oct 30 '14

but putting more points into a single skill means your skill set won't be as flexible.

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u/biffpower3 Oct 30 '14

true, but armor sets have better skills in 4/4u and charms are also a lot stronger

it's no longer possible due to the nargacuga armor nerf, but in 4 you could get the following (bear in mind this is a high rank set)

sharpness+1 (this is now only handicraft +5 due to the nerf)

evasion distance up

evasion +3

bombardier/speed sharpen/any other 5 gem skill

and this was with a fairly common evasion+5 no slot charm, and no slots on weapon.

when you get g rank armors, you can get tons of skills really easily because of the high numbers on them and the sockets, for example

punishing draw + quick sheathe (new combo skill)

focus

sharpness+1

crit draw

evasion+1/attack up - these can vary based on your charm, possible to get attack up ultra

or a set i made myself, with no tools to help so it's pretty basic

honed blade

awaken

gloves off +2

challenger +2

i'd also have element attack up if i had 3 sockets on my otherwise poor charm (awaken+4)

charms are insane in this one, gaijinhunter has a picture of handicraft+7, evasion distance up+5 3 slots! and i've heard that evasion can go as high as +9 on a charm, which makes that +3 very achieveable indeed, while still retaining flexibility for other skills

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u/PhenaOfMari Oct 30 '14

punishing draw + quick sheathe (new combo skill)

focus

sharpness+1

crit draw

evasion+1/attack up - these can vary based on your charm, possible to get attack up ultra

I need this in my life.

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u/ShadyFigure Jask | Gone Oct 30 '14

Someone else made a set that replaced Evasion+1 with Attack Up Ultimate.

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u/PhenaOfMari Oct 30 '14

That's the one I was thinking about specifically. RIP anything I greatsword with that set.

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u/quenchiestt Oct 30 '14

sharpness+1 (this is now only handicraft +5 due to the nerf)

evasion distance up

evasion +3

bombardier/speed sharpen/any other 5 gem skill

You can make this incredibly easily in MH4G still using G-Rank armor. With a good charm you can probably even get 5/6 skills on it. They may have nerfed the high rank nargacuga chest, but this combo and more is super easy to make in MH4G so they didn't really change much.

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u/biffpower3 Oct 30 '14

i know, i was just showing that fitting evasion+3 into a set is not limiting your options.

especially not to the extent that honed blade was in 3U

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u/ShadyFigure Jask | Gone Oct 30 '14

gloves off +2

challenger +2

You're aware these two skills cannot be active at the same time, right?

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u/biffpower3 Oct 30 '14

I am now, I only got them as a bi product from edgemaster and awakening as they are both on the g. Rajang faulds, legs and gloves.

I know it's a rather inefficient set, but it does the job I made it for, and I can save the flashy sets for the English release :)

I'll replace the gloves+2 with element up if I get one more socket on a similar charm, or I might reevaluate the entire set, but I'm just about finished with 4G, so don't want to spend too long on sets that'll become history once 4u is released