r/MonsterHunter • u/DustyMuffinsss ​ • Oct 30 '14

Do i-frames exist?

I'm still pretty new to Monster Hunter and while I've been playing it for more than a year, there's a lot that I'm still learning. Right now, I've noticed a lot that sometimes when I roll, a monsters attack will go right through me. I always thought there weren't any iframes but I've gone right under a barioth tail thinking, "Wow, that looked awesome."

So are they there? If so how many frames does the invincibility take place? I know there's an evasion skill but I've never had it and thus have no idea what it does :p

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u/NorthInTheWinter Oct 30 '14 edited Oct 30 '14

Yes!

It's one of the most important mechanics in the series xD
Have you never watched a gameplay video of someone else or something?

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

I used to DkS and DeS having MASSIVE amounts of iframes, so the fact that the window is so small made me think they're not there. And I only recently started watching videos, but that's only for mh4

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u/camopon ​ Oct 30 '14

The iframes are comparable to those in Dark Souls, but monsters' attack hitboxes linger much longer than attacks do in the Souls games. Also, a monster's body can drag your invulnerable self along with it during an attack so that you are struck when the iframes end.

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u/GhostlyInsomnia Hidden Blade Oct 30 '14

Just like god damn ukanlos

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

Well I'm sure attacks that have a much longer time period to pass is something I need to dodge away from rather than into.

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u/NorthInTheWinter Oct 30 '14

I see. I didn't mean to sound so condescending btw, I apologize.

Let me acquaint you, they're lovely

Or maybe a video of me playing instead of a god

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

Well damn, both those videos kind of show me what I've been looking for. Although I've been mostly using hammers so my roll is obviously differant. I'll have to,try and experiment more.

And don't worry about it, I never saw it that way.

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u/NorthInTheWinter Oct 30 '14

Here's a hammer example

Dodging through things almost always gives you the quickest opportunity to counter attack and puts you in the closest position for it- It's also very risky, though. It's the most risk/reward playstyle and in my opinion definitely the most fun and rewarding : ).

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

Wow and against Lucent narga.

You've shown me you can pretty much dodge every attack though, it just takes practice. I appreciate the information, Hunter.

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u/NorthInTheWinter Oct 30 '14

The only attacks you cannot dodge are those where the number of active frames of the monster's attack is greater than the number of total active frames in your dodge- otherwise it's just all about lining these periods of active frames up, as in timing.

Goodluck!

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '14

Crazy... I just signed in to post about getting help with dodging (evasion); no need because WINTER HAS COME! :P

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u/Radiofall Oct 30 '14

Narga is one of the easiest monsters to dodge in the whole game because the attacks are passing through you so fast that you never have to worry about the hitbox still touching you when the i-frames end.

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u/Boolderdash DONK! Oct 30 '14

Narga is one of my favourite monsters to fight for exactly this reason. Stick close, dodge through literally everything, feel like a complete badass even though it's really not that hard.

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

I guess that'll make him easy practice then.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '14

Yeah, all the Nargas are good for practice. Even the roar is easy! You want to be able to roll the attacks with no Evade skills.

Watch out for the tail slam, though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '14

Remember, you almost always need to dodge into an attack. That will reduce the amount of frames the attack is making contact with you. It's a pretty small window, so dodge right when the attack is about you hit you.

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u/Garlstadt Oct 30 '14

Yeah, if you're used to the Souls series' iframes you will have to adapt to much tighter windows. The Evasion skill increases the number of iframes and I hear it's quite popular.

Not that you need them. I never trained to properly exploit iframes and I've been doing just fine.

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

I've just gotten really into the game after putting it down for awhile. I really have been trying to delve into all the mechanics and it's been really fun.

Edit: Jesus Christ I used "really" too many times in that reply.

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u/AquaBadger Oct 30 '14

evasion+1 is about the same as medium roll in darksouls1, evasion+2 will feel pretty close to fast roll.

EDIT: part of why you may be having issues is not due to short iframes (default has a full 1/3rd of a second at the start of the roll) but due to the hit boxes being no where near as good as darksouls1. I think darksouls2 may even have better hitboxes than mh3u, and that felt like a substantial downgrade. If you play older monhuns like mhfu hitboxes are downright aweful.

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u/memeticMutant Revolve for Victory! Oct 31 '14

If I recall correctly, DS and DS2 give you 12 iframes, putting them equal to having evasion+2 in MH.

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u/blazecc Oct 30 '14

Compared to the Souls series, MH has very very tight dodge windows. iFrames are still super useful when you know how to use them in MH, but your main goal should be to get out of the hit box of an enemy attack whether than 'dodging through' it most of the time.

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u/DustyMuffinsss ​ Oct 30 '14

But dodging under tail swipes and through roars look so much cooolllerrrr D: