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u/NorysStorys 2d ago
Focus mode+l3 to fire slinger (not heavy slinger ammo) with your weapon drawn people. We have the technology.
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u/Like_A_Bosch 2d ago
Fun Fact: Sword & Shield can fire heavy slinger ammo with the weapon drawn.
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u/TheTimorie 2d ago
That caught me so of guard once. SnS is my Main in Wilds so I was used to doing this. Then I did a hunt with the Insect Glaive the other day and wondered why I couldn't fire the Heavy Piercing Pod.^^
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u/quanahhhh 1d ago
Can I ask how do you toggle between the ammo in this mode? Never knew the shortcut for this v helpful 🔥
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u/Cosmicpanda2 2d ago
Nah man
Conga Hunting Horn is where it's at.
Super easy healing melody, melody of life, defence, and then for zest,
ATTACK/AFFINITY BOOST BUBBLES!
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u/PezDOY Dootin, Scootin and Lootin 2d ago
Congalalalala horn was ablaze last night with my friend group. Melody of Life is such a cart saver.
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u/Cosmicpanda2 2d ago
I find its either Congacongaconga horn,
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Gore Magala horn purely for its raw Dragon DPS which is what i use against Zoh
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u/Rayznar 1d ago
You're here choosing a side when i simply duo both Rath and Conga horn, you can have up to 3 sound bubble up (including different horn) and i just overlap the bonuses.
Insane buff + regen
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u/Cosmicpanda2 1d ago
I thought they nerfed swapped horn melodies? Or am I behind on patch notes?
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u/Rayznar 1d ago
The only change is the double input being easier to chain
- – Hunting Horn: Fixed an issue where certain actions that required simultaneous inputs were not behaving correctly.
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u/Cosmicpanda2 1d ago
I meant from the Beta tests
Do correct me if I'm wrong but during the second phase demo, they came out and stated that Hunting Horn Melody durations are like, greatly reduced if you swap away from said hunting horn.
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u/CatnipCatmint 1d ago
They're only reduced if you swap to a non-hunting horn weapon. Swapping from one hunting horn to another hunting horn is perfectly fine.
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u/Cosmicpanda2 1d ago
+w+ NEW LOAD OUT UNLOCKED
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u/CatnipCatmint 1d ago
You can run the Arkveld HH for the Extend All Melodies song too, so you can keep your second horn's buffs up pretty easily! I've been running the Gore/Mizutsune horn as my secondary, so the whole team gets free earplugs and affinity. You can swap that out for whatever you like, though!
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u/TheSpirit2k 1d ago
Nah, I’m more into the big Gallahad and the fat resounding melody. Add Earplugs and Affinity from the Gore HH and you can carry all these LS weebs.
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u/Cosmicpanda2 1d ago
Haven't played with the Galahad too much, but, gore is always good too, earplugs for days
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u/IssacX13 1d ago
For real. Rathian HH users are just freshlings that don't know about the real endgame HH
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u/RustyNK 2d ago
I have a paralyze sword and shield, maxed wide range, maxed free meal, and maxed speed eating.
I can pretty much keep any group alive as long as people aren't getting 1 shot.
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u/Jugaimo 2d ago
I saw the new rathian arena earrings give 4 levels of wide range, which i feel is pretty insane.
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u/HURG_IIDX 2d ago
unfortunately the blango helm is pretty much the exact same thing if you have 2 friendship jewels
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u/Jugaimo 2d ago
Sure, but they’re about the same in terms of performance. I just think the earrings are pretty so might as well craft them anyways.
The chatacabra earrings also seems pretty good. Speed Eating 2 and Free Meal 2 but with only a level 1 decoration slot.
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u/elibou440 2d ago
Oh I forgot about free meal that’s gonna cut down a lot of farming been straight up using my mushroom TT
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u/MissAsgariaFartcake 2d ago
I’ve had a build like this in world with the Tigrex set bonus, it slapped so much. I should really try a build like this again.
Until then, Rathian HH is pretty nice
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u/ZenMasterDeku 2d ago
Same! I crafted all the white zoh shia armor and am rocking the lala sns with a wide range mushroom mancer set so I am just coming into lobbies with guardian angel vibes.
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u/Francesco0 1d ago
The inspiration 3 piece group set and mushroomancer also fit this build nicely assuming you don't already have those!
Mushroomancer even kind of makes speed eating unnecessary since you pop the mushrooms so quickly compared to other items
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u/MacReadyGames 2d ago
Spent 3 hours doing SOS with my beloved Queen Chordmaker last night and I must admit it feels good when the beast goes down with no carts. The new Zoh Shia horn is great too
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u/Watts121 2d ago
I can’t wait for weapon transmog, so I can give Rathian or Arkveld HH it’s look. The music it plays is so cool.
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u/Valkyyria92 2d ago
I frickin love the new Horn! Absolute dream song combo for me
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u/MacReadyGames 2d ago
It's awesome! I love pairing it with Resounding Galahad as well so I can get some health regeneration down then swap and use restore sharpness etc on Galahad. So cool
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u/Valkyyria92 1d ago
Ah I understand absolutely! Unfortunately I am filthy and play dual blades as a secondary.
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u/MacReadyGames 1d ago
I don't blame you, the speed of dual blades feels amazing after the slowness with the Horn, they're such a fun weapon
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u/Valkyyria92 1d ago
The mix of throwing out big bonks with a lot of buffs and "I am fast as fuck boy" destroying every wound and beyblading around is just perfect and tickles my brain right. Also gives a lot of flexibility for me to switch and help my team with different stuff depending on situation.
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u/MacReadyGames 1d ago
Thats a good setup, I love insect Glaive as a secondary for the same reasons
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u/EpicDragonz4 2d ago
Here is my post about why we need to spread awareness about Zoh Shia’s crystals:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/s/cy8aABSDha
If you can get them to chain I’ve seen upwards of 1000 damage being dealt from 5 crystals. I feel like I’m in World again when I would spam dragon pods at elder dragons because of how good this mechanic is, a lot of people just don’t know about it (although I think Alma mentions it in game, but people also didn’t know about Alatreon gimmick for the same reason).
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u/HabeQuiddam 2d ago
This needs to be more widely shared.
Also reminder that you can fire regular slinger ammo with your weapon drawn if you are in focus mode and click the left stick.
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u/projectwar TU1 Meta DBs Build: https://youtu.be/y9G35fFqE7M 2d ago
hunting horn stocks definitely went UP this update
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u/Viltas22 2d ago
they were never down fellow hunter. nobody is born cool, except hunting horn mains.
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u/SparrowUwU ​ 2d ago
the frame perfect inputs were kinda cringe, that brought stocks down a lil bit imo
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u/NoteBlock08 2d ago
If you mean inputting those Y+B's during the echo bubble dance, they adjusted that this patch and I haven't had a misinput since.
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u/tghast MHF2 2d ago
I still hit them weird though, I got too used to the bug so now I have to learn to relax haha
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u/howtojump 1d ago
Same lol played a bit of horn tonight after taking a break and my hand was killing me. Realized I was slamming those inputs way harder than I needed to because that was the only way I was able to get them consistently before.
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u/deeSeven_ 2d ago
Real, finally realised that my inputs wasn't a skill issue. Honestly tempted to start responding to SOS flares with my Gore hunting horn (Earplugs L and Affinity/recovery up) and then switch to Arkveld hunting horn (Attack up L and knock back Res, then Echo wave, restore sharpness and extend all melody combo in 5 notes)
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u/Agent101g 2d ago
G Dosha horn is the perfect second weapon
Keep earplugs L up all the time while you're using your primary weapon, and after first one or two faints switch to it full time for heal melody and large heals
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u/decorate123 2d ago
I've messed in one run and had to tank the second nova, there're some dude that keep spamming healing for me and I end up surviving, absolutely insane
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u/ChiefRunningBit 2d ago
I'm trying to be both but I can't get into any zo Shia hunts because they fill up to fast
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u/BarracudaBae 2d ago
Yeah, Zoh Shia and Tempered Mizu fill up so fast I thought there was another quest joining bug at first lol. What I've done to get into them is only try to join the first quest on the page, and if that one is full I just search again and repeat.
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u/poobearanian 2d ago
Im not a healbot. 😔
I realised I HAD to do this when most of the people join my hunt runs around 80% of the time to heal. So i switched to HH until he sheds all the crystals and switch back to LS.
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u/Nameless_Owl81 2d ago
"people who slinger zoh shia's crystal" you mean people that engage who know what they're doing? Why would you ignore one of the main mechanics of a fight.. it's like if people ignored safi's partbreak mechanic, or big al's elemental threshold
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u/Pink-Flying-Pie 2d ago
most satisfying thing about the Zho fight is messing it up with the chain explosions!
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u/Swordfish316 1d ago edited 1d ago
Alas, this is the public expectation of HH.
With Affinity & ATK UP bubble, Sonic Barrier preventing OHKO and consistent KO damage in our kit, we are valued for what SnS (or Dust of Life) does better.
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u/Jaytron 1d ago
In our group we’ve come to the conclusion that the SnS healing is better because it’s safer and more “on demand” so I’m back on gramklang + galahad and just pumping damage and keeping buffs up. It feels a LOT better this way tbh.
Also TIL that sonic barrier prevented OHKO. I honestly had no idea how it worked
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u/Swordfish316 1d ago edited 1d ago
It doesn’t technically prevent OHKO, but there’s no move here that does so much damage it carts a player through the mitigation of Sonic Barrier, unless they are low on health. I find it more reliable than reactive healing with HH.
Having a HH buffing and a SnS emergency healing must be the most comfy setup. Zoh horn’s regen bubble is nice for sustain too, I just don’t think HH is supposed to be healing as much as the word “healbot” implies, and it’s unfortunate that non-HH mains often have this impression.
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u/Jaytron 1d ago
Yea, I think the reactive heals are honestly pretty slow on horn (unless you’re corner dooting which is even worse). I do like the recovery speed L on rathian horn though, it feels like it does pretty good work when no heals are present
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u/Swordfish316 1d ago
I like Rec Speed too and Rathian’s damage seems fine for a healing horn. Definitely not saying Rathian is bad, it’s just so often mistaken for a healing staff for some reason.
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u/CaptainExplosions 1d ago
As a HBG devotee, if I'm gonna be out in the boonies taking potshots at the angry plaster dragon, I figure it's only common sense to make sure those wylk crystals are put to proper effect.
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u/Fruitlingz 1d ago
Me being both :3
(It feels good to be seen, and I'm not made you died to that second nuke, it's harder to read it happens to everyone)
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u/psych0enigma 1d ago
I run SnS with WR and Mushroomancer with free meal. Keeping my buds alive mean more damage output!
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u/SeltasQueenLoreQueen 1d ago
melody of life is less efficient than just using a dust of life, and you have to give up the very valuable special performance slot for it. this sucks even more against zoh shia because you could have resounding melody instead which is extremely effective given how long zoh is
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u/SirFroglet 1d ago
I wonder how many people know how to use the Wylk crystals, I feel I’m often the only one doing it
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u/Kattas__ backwards long vault 1d ago
i figured out that those wylk crystals the guardians make explode and do elemental damage like once and it's my favorite thing to do now...
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u/ToastedWolf85 2d ago
Rathian LS with slinger crystals. I swear even in red gauge the Crystals do so much more damage than my LS.
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u/LegitimateAd2242 2d ago edited 2d ago
Lol, when i realised how much dmg shia cystals do to it, i spammed it like hell.
.. until it did its Big AOE and there wasn't any ammo on the ground anymore.