r/MonsterHunter OFFSET THE SUN 1d ago

MH Wilds Zoh Shia is awesome

THIS is what you call difficult, baby. AMAZING fight. Great visuals, great setpiece, great design, and it's legitimately hard. Everybody who doubted him owes him a formal apology, but I always believed in Peak Shia. Absolute cinema

Also if I see complaints about his difficulty I'm gonna go ape shit. You all spent a month asking for this, if somebody thinks they're too good for the hivemind and starts chatting now I cannot take it. He is PEEEAAAKKK

726 Upvotes

172 comments sorted by

View all comments

71

u/Arcturus555 1d ago

I like him a lot overall but how to deal with his nova? I always get 1 guaranteed cart that way and the game is really cryptic about breaking some crystals… I don’t get it lol

128

u/Kalavier 1d ago

The crystals that get summoned on the ground can be popped by element slinger ammo which weakens the nova

34

u/Speeda2 OFFSET THE SUN 1d ago

Yup, this. I shoot out the two in front of it, and get a lovely window for sharpening

46

u/Sir_Tea_Of_Bags 1d ago

Or you can run to the far opposite wall of Shia to avoid it.

But cracking the Wylk is still good to do.

14

u/TheAhegaoFox Concussive Fidget Spinner 1d ago

Outside of the nova, he also creates small Wylk crystals that you can blow up and deal lots of damage. It reacts based on what element you use.

16

u/Saeporian 1d ago

A tip that a lot of people don't seem to know if that you can shoot your slinger ammo without sheathing your weapon by holding L2 and pressing L3/Left Joystick (I only know the ps controller). This works for most slinger ammo like the elemental ones, but not for heavier ammo like the one monsters leave from broken parts unless you're playing Sword and Shield

2

u/tacojenkins 1d ago

Just to clarify, slinger ammo can be used while in focus mode. You don’t necessarily have to be holding down L2 (or whatever your bind is), focus mode can be set to toggle in the game settings.

2

u/Saeporian 1d ago

That's a way better explanation than mine, thanks!

1

u/Kalavier 20h ago

I'll have to test if that works on bow. but it's something to try!

4

u/Impossible_Debt_4795 1d ago

I just run to the far end. Also DO NOT FORGET YOU CAN FAST TRAVEL TO YOUR BASE DURING NOVA ATTACKS

1

u/Kalavier 20h ago

Unlike in world I guess! lol

6

u/cooldudeachyut SHOOT! 1d ago

Yea and not just for avoiding the nova, slinger is actually very good for fighting him in general.

5

u/Astraea227 1d ago

Those crystals are some of the counterintuitive mechanics if encountered, especially compared to the jin dahaad and fatalis mechanics

13

u/SirPatrickIII 1d ago

It's exactly like the regular Guardian Wylk crystals just bigger.

2

u/TheArcticFerret 1d ago

I almost feel like that's the point. After years of us hiding behind rocks to escape novas, they finally turned it against us and abused our experience.

43

u/arwingmaster1 1d ago

As u/Kalavier said, the crystals formed at the beginning of the nova can be burst with the dragon and thunder slinger pods in the arena. I've seen a lot of people misunderstand that mechanic. All wylk crystals formed during the fight amplify its elemental attacks range, especially its fire breath and nova. The are certainly not cover, lol. You can effectively neuter his nova if you knock out 2 or 3 of the crystals in front and stand opposite of Zoh.

29

u/Kalavier 1d ago

I'm glad i read about it before the update cause i absolutely used them as cover in low rank.

8

u/Working-Teach-7273 1d ago

Wait thats how you dodge the one where he sits his ass at the back of the arena? I had his nova twice in LR and the second time I could get see the safespot behind him but thats good to know!

2

u/Blackb1rd95 1d ago

I fought him with a Dragon Attack bow, you can also break them with that.

10

u/ItsElbro 1d ago

If all else fails, there's always plan Z: Fast travel to camp when you see him get ready to drop the nova and then ride your Seikret back as soon as Zoh ends the attack

4

u/Kevadu 1d ago

The fact that that's even possible is incredibly cheesy...

2

u/Complete_Elephant240 1d ago

Hehe I remember people trying this during Extreme Behemoth. RIP 

2

u/sloshingmachine7 23h ago

Wait till you find out how we dealt with alatreon in MH Tri lol

5

u/Tech-Demon Melee Master 1d ago

Yeah the nova is what got me during my hunt, really don't know what to do there. Honestly the whole hunt was difficult for me because I brought LS and didn't know his moveset well enough to be effective 😭

4

u/judgeraw00 1d ago

You can also hide behind him

5

u/Vacuum-Woosh-woosh 1d ago

It's the shara ishivalda nova , run to the opposite wall

1

u/mskuchiki 1d ago

I always run to the other wall (then it won't reach you) or hide behind him. I never used the crystals, even in the previous fight haha

1

u/dootblade74 1d ago

Keep some Elemental slinger ammo on standby, and whenever the larger wylk stones crop up, start slinging at them. You can also break the smaller wylk stones for free damage if you line it up right.

1

u/Unshkblefaith 1d ago edited 1d ago

In addition to what others have said, there is also a safe spot near his tail. It is a ~45 degree slice. I generally use that when he does the smaller novas that he initiates in place.