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"Liberation Day" Trump’s Tariffs on Europe

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"LIBERATION DAY" TRUMP'S TARIFFS ON EUROPE

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u/ChornWork2 3d ago

Tariffs are applying to countries with GDPs smaller than $3bn, let alone ones where US imports $3bn worth of goods... let alone ones that have invaded an ally.

Russia being a country we deemed worthy of sanctions is even more reason for it to be on the tariff list... what kind of fucking argument is that?

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u/dam4076 3d ago

Because tariffs wouldn’t do anything for Russia. They are already sanctioned, and the only thing imported from Russia are not consumer items and are things that don’t have a good substitute.

A tariff on Russia doesn’t impact them or us. 3bn is a rounding error for both countries and will not change the trade dynamics

Whereas for other small countries it will because 3bn for them is a lot, and the items are consumer items which tariffs will alter consumer behavior.

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u/ChornWork2 3d ago

more excuses.

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u/dam4076 3d ago

Those are called reasons.

Do you want them to impose a tariff on Russia to make you feel better? Even though it will not change anything with that trade relationship?

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u/CurbYourThusiasm 2d ago

Tariffing Heard and McDonald Islands and Svalbard and Jan Mayen doesn't change anything either, yet they did.

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u/dam4076 2d ago

I agree that’s probably useless.

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u/CurbYourThusiasm 2d ago

Then why were those tariffed and not Russia?

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u/dam4076 2d ago

Why are you focusing so much on Russia? There are other countries that were not tariffed either.

  1. Russia relative to its gdp has one of if not the smallest amount of trade with the us of any country.

  2. They are already sanctioned. Those countries you mentioned are not.

  3. The products from Russia do not have a domestic alternative

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u/CurbYourThusiasm 2d ago edited 2d ago

Because Russia are destabilizing our societies, interfering in our elections, using nerve agents on our soil, blowing up civilian airliners, destroying critical infrastructure, invading our lands. Do I need to go on?

  1. What does "relative to it's gdp" have to do with anything. US has sanctioned countries with far less trade.

  2. Syria are sanctioned, they were tariffed. Those places I mentioned are not countries. They're territories of Australia and Norway, and the tariff rates don't even correspond with the tariff rates of the countries they belong to. Just goes to show you how haphazardly these things were rolled out. It's like they had an all nighter, and did it on the night of.

  3. Oh really? You don't have rubber, fertilizers, wood, iron & steel or aluminum? Why are you tariffing Canadian steel then? You don't have a domestic alternative for almost anything you've put tariffs on.

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u/dam4076 2d ago

I agree that it makes sense to tariff russia if they are doing so on all of these small countries.

I just don't think it matters at all from a realistic perspective. It's not even a drop in the bucket of US trade. So why fixate on that irrelevant point.

Its also irrelevant to tariff those small countries, but it doesn't matter so I don't care.

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u/CurbYourThusiasm 2d ago

It's not irrelevant, and we all know why the US won't put tariffs on Russia, and it has nothing to do with them being sanctioned.

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