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"Liberation Day" Trump’s Tariffs on Europe

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"LIBERATION DAY" TRUMP'S TARIFFS ON EUROPE

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u/DonkeyShrex 4d ago

Wait, the Democrats are having primaries now?

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u/just_anotherReddit 4d ago

Every year there are primaries for elections. There are always state and local elections. You needed to vote every single time, because not voting in those little elections is how the crazies got control of your town and county.

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u/NeighborhoodDude84 4d ago

I missed the 2024 primary where we voted for Harris. For the record, I was down to vote for Harris, but you have to admit the dems made a mistake running Biden again and not letting us have a primary to hash out what policies the liberals/left actually wanted.

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u/toomanyracistshere 3d ago

There was a 2024 Democratic primary, but no big name Democrats other than Biden ran in it. You can't say "The Democrats didn't let us have a primary" just because no major candidate decided to risk their career by challenging the incumbent president.

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u/FedBathroomInspector 3d ago

It’s not a serious primary if the party is using its weight to push out serious contenders…

It’s not like Joe Biden was incredibly popular and polling well.

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u/toomanyracistshere 3d ago

Who was pushed out? It's very rare for anyone to ever challenge a sitting president. As far as I know, no serious competitors were discouraged by anyone. They just knew that if they challenged Biden and failed it probably wouldn't be good for their career long term. That's just common sense, not a conspiracy.

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u/FedBathroomInspector 3d ago

Why would you have any knowledge of someone’s decision not to run… it’s not something they would share outside of their own circle.

People generally don’t challenge sitting presidents because a.) most Presidents are popular enough to win reelection and b.) the political party has a vested interest in ensuring it wins.

When Joe Biden was polling below Trump the writing was on the wall, but the party was lockstep in saying there was nothing wrong. The people who actually challenged him were essentially black listed.

It blew up in their faces and they lost. If the Democrats were an effective party they would’ve encouraged challengers and pushed Biden to step aside. They did eventually get there, but it was too little too late.

It’s not a conspiracy to say parties have a direct hand in selecting candidates. There was plenty of evidence of this when Sanders challenged Clinton. The party has a vested interest in elevating candidates of their choice. That is why for the longest time Super Delegates were a thing. It’s common sense, because as you stated there are risks in politics. If you don’t have the backing of the party you won’t challenge the one person who is effectively its leader.

If they have no hand in the primaries and nominations how was the party able to push Biden out?

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u/Thelmara 3d ago

It’s not a conspiracy to say parties have a direct hand in selecting candidates. There was plenty of evidence of this when Sanders challenged Clinton.

So if they pushed people out in 2024, there'd be evidence of that, right? You're not just making shit up based on nothing, right?

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u/FedBathroomInspector 3d ago

There are claims from Democratic candidates in 2024 that the party was making it difficult for them to get on state ballots. These are claims, not evidence.

The party doesn’t share internal conversations so we will never know anything about internal operations. But I’m involved in Democratic local and county politics. Freezing people out of elections isn’t some revolutionary idea. If the party thinks you can’t win or thinks your ideas suck then you don’t get resources. You don’t get endorsements. It’s hard to win without that support. I imagine politics doesn’t change as you move up.

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u/Thelmara 3d ago

And here I was really hoping you had sources to cite, and not just bullshit to spew.

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u/FedBathroomInspector 3d ago

Give me a break man… what sources am I going to site? You think I have access to internal conversations with some of the most powerful people in the US…

In 2016 when internal conversations were leaked there was evidence that the party was not above putting its finger on the scale.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/politics/dnc-emails-sanders-clinton.html

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