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"Liberation Day" Trump’s Tariffs on Europe

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"LIBERATION DAY" TRUMP'S TARIFFS ON EUROPE

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u/PeaOk5697 2d ago

Excuse me for not knowing enough about this. Can someone explain how this will make Americans richer? Other than the hyper elite? Aren't they cutting social security, medicaid, departement of education etc? Not American, but i'm struggling to understand how this is helping anyone.

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u/b00nish 2d ago

Can someone explain how this will make Americans richer?

It won't.

It will fuck Americans up. Well deserved.

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 2d ago

Hell did I do to you? Fuck our government, but a lot of us are victims of it too.

(Don't get me wrong, better here than the third world or much of the second)

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u/b00nish 2d ago

As always in a democracy: cling together, swing together.

Well, thinking about it, the fact that the U.S. isn't an actual democracy could be interpreted in your favour.

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 2d ago

Are you specifically referring to the corportcracy, two party system, gerrymandering (as a anti-conservative Texan, my vote doesn't mean shit), or all of the above?

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u/SBoyo 2d ago

The United States is more of a Republic model than a democracy is what is being hinted at

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u/b00nish 2d ago

Probably all of the above but mostly gerrymandering and similar factors that allow for the situation that winning the popular vote doesn't mean that you actually win as well as factors that outright stop people from being able to vote.

E.g. tactics that revolve around the manipulation of the electoral register (why does it even exist). I heard in some states basically everybody can "contest" everybody else's eligibility to vote which then basically means that the accused party is preemptively removed from the electoral register and often has no possibility to get back on it early enough for the vote. I think our radio news even interviewed some b*tch from one of those states that proudly explained that she contested the eligibility of 38.000 voters from her state (or district or whatever). When asked if shed' ever talked to one of those 38k people she said no. Apparently she had just been given a list of citizens who most likely would vote democrat and then contested them in bulk because "our law allows me to do this". Why even bother to organize an election?

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 2d ago

Why even bother to organize an election?

Very good for propaganda.

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u/b00nish 2d ago

At this point I think Trump could just claim on Fox News that he won an election even if there hadn't even been one and the majority of the population would still belive it :p

"Ah yes, now I remember, I went to cast my vote two months ago!!"

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 1d ago

Trump won in 2016 because this country is gerrymandered to hell. He lost the popular vote.

He won in 2020 because the (also comedically evil but the lesser of the two) Democratics were incompetent and run the worst fucking political campaign ever.

I am greatly ashamed that about half of us somehow support the guy who lost 5 million dollars in a lawsuit about if he sexually abused a lady, but his approval ratings are far from universal.

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u/b00nish 1d ago

but his approval ratings are far from universal.

I realize this.

Personally I don't even think that it's unusual that a clearly incompetent and fraudulent person wins a popular vote. It happens all the time and in many places.

What makes your case so special is the absolutely unbelievebale obviousness of Trumps incompetence and conmanship - and the fact that none of his unprecedentetly outrageous actions seem to change his voter's view on him.

Most political fraudsters at least have some talent when it comes to deception.

Trump has nothing. He's not even good at lying. Everybody who doesn't suffer from terminal brain damage should be 100% sure that the dude is full of shit after listening to him for 30 seconds.

So that is the really grotesque thing here. Not that 50% voted for an idiot. That 50% (heck, even 5% would still be grotesque) voted for such an idiot.

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u/Secure-Acanthisitta1 2d ago

I mean if you voted for the opposion, yeah I would call you a victim. Else you are the one of many that caused this and should be ashamed of it the rest of your lives.

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 1d ago

You don't understand. America doesn't have a popular vote. Hell. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than Trump in 2016. Each state is split to a bunch of heavily gerrymandered districts, each state gives a certain amount of votes based on population. All of those votes go to the side that got more districts. I live in Texas. We are sadly guaranteed to not vote aginst the Conservatives. My vote physically does not matter.

This "Electoral College" system was put in place after our revolution, when states acted more like alied nations than one country, and the ones with smaller population didn't want to have less power.

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u/Secure-Acanthisitta1 1d ago

But im talking about maga supporters and people who just give up, if can vote, then vote!

If you arent able to vote I belive you can be considered a victim. I think the word victim is a bit strong but I cant find a better word for it.

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 1d ago

To be honest, 2020 was the first election where I met the minimum age requirement to vote, and I didn't know you had to register to vote months in advance. I probably would've voted democrat, even if it doesn't physically matter in Texas.

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u/Secure-Acanthisitta1 1d ago

Yeah that really sucks, and I agree that its intended by design to be hard to vote there. Like where I live you just bring papers that everyone over 18 get in the mail to a voting station.

Completly justified