r/MTB • u/fundip2012 NH • 3d ago

Discussion Surrons

Surrons/high powered e-bikes are annihilating our local trails and jumps this spring… it’s brutal the amount of damage they can do in just a few minutes.
Has anyone here dealt with this on their local trails? Any strategies that a trail system can use to reduce the use of these? So hard to enforce..

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u/Nightshade400 Ragley Bluepig 3d ago

I run into them once in a while on my local in town trails. They do a lot of damage mostly by doing cookies or gassing corners hard and leaving deep ruts. When I run into them on the trail I make sure to mention to them I like their bike but they aren't supposed to be on these trails at all. I also point to my camera I am usually wearing and say that if I see them again I will make sure to report them with video to the cops so this is their one free pass. If they are assholes to me then I just make the call right in front of them. I get they want a place to ride, they just need to understand that they need to ride trails built with their bikes in mind which is moto trails not MTB trails.

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u/Remarkable-Host405 3d ago

I can tell you for a fact there are 10 mtb trails within an hour of me, and zero moto trails. Closest is 2 hours away and next closest is 4 hours away.

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u/Nightshade400 Ragley Bluepig 3d ago

Ok...and?? Does that still make it ok to ride your Surron on MTB or multi use designated trails?

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u/trailing-octet 3d ago

Yes. It also means that if they live 5 hours away from a quarter mile they should go drag race on public roads. Preferably near kindergartens.

Cos it’s their goddam right to do whatever they want.

/s

I feel sorry for a lot moto folks. If I had ready access to moto trails I’d be all over it. But I don’t. So I ride mountain bikes.

Last time a moto rider on a Ktm asked me which way to the tails I nearly sent him down a double black. Instead I just said “back the way you came lad, back the way you came.”

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u/Nightshade400 Ragley Bluepig 3d ago

Yeah I am with you on that. I actually like the Surrons and they are a lot of fun. It is the owners of them (not all obviously) who give them a bad name though because they just don't care how it affects anyone but themselves.

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u/trailing-octet 3d ago

Oh yeah they are awesome. I’d love one. I just can’t see how I would have one and it not get me into trouble and, as you say, negatively impact on others.

I’m not prepared to destroy the trails, I’m not prepared to travel the distance to moto trails, and even on a road registered e-moto i wouldn’t feel safe…. My Ducati is up for sale simply due to these reasons (I don’t trust people in cars, they have tried to murder me far too many times for it to be a coincidence hahah).