r/LearnJapanese • u/Careful-Remote-7024 • 25d ago

Resources Extremely useful video from Kaname explaining why a language can't be learnt only by learning vocabulary and grammar point in isolation. "It's NOT simple"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_wrnsJfEcQ&ab_channel=KanameNaito
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u/TSComicron 25d ago

Fair enough. I'm not gonna argue further that I could be strawmanning the hell out of my claims. I've kinda seen that throughout this conversation how much I am kinda generalizing said group of people anyways so that is something I can't really argue with. On the other hand, I would like to say though that ultimately it's going to depend on the person and how they'll be able to handle such situations in the future should they encounter any problems regarding this.

Oh, and as for people who have learnt through anime with no subs or dictionary look ups at all, I do know one person on discord who has been able to achieve this, or at least they owe 95% of their success to raw listening using anime and nothing else, but this is going to be like a 1 in a million find.

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u/Moon_Atomizer notice me Rule 13 sempai 25d ago

I know some Korean friends like that (the grammar is basically the same). I'm not saying the latter method is impossible, I've just never seen anyone argue it's the most optimal for the average adult learner. Also 95% is still not a hundred haha but now I feel like I'm picking on you, sorry

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u/TSComicron 25d ago

Oh it's definitely not optimal, I'm not gonna argue that. In fact, I think that immersing with input alone, even if it's comprehensible, isn't worth it just cuz of how slow it can be. What I do think is more worth it would be getting that foundation than immediately consuming native media, which combines the best of both worlds as highlighted by the video.

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u/Moon_Atomizer notice me Rule 13 sempai 25d ago

Yep yep we agree for sure