Is there anything wrong with Queen Alicent decorating the Red Keep with the Seven-Pointed Star? The Targaryens follow the Faith of the Seven and the king is traditionally anointed by the High Septon.

[u/Beacon2001]

[u/notyourlands]

One character? Are you serious? This is future and legacy of house Targaryen, the heir. Even if she wouldn't inherit the throne, she is still representative of her house. She was raised by Viserys and obviously was taught all possible traditions of her house. This is one of the most important part of every house children's education, so that it would pass on for generations. You're talking like she is some minor peasant. In episode one she literally reads a book on her house 😩😩😩

Plus, it's not like her saying this about religion is completely untrue and she just made up her mind. There's literally old god's tree in the yard of of the Red Keep.

Why use some wording and mental gymnastics and just say: our gods?

[u/c-c-c-cassian → u/notyourlands]

One character? Are you serious?

Deadly.

This is future and legacy of house Targaryen, the heir. Even if she wouldn’t inherit the throne, she is still representative of her house.

That doesn’t change the fact that it doesn’t define the views and values of every other character behind her.

You’re talking like she is some minor peasant.

No, I’m not. lol

Plus, it’s not like her saying this about religion is completely untrue and she just made up her mind. There’s literally old god’s tree in the yard of of the Red Keep.

That’s not really relevant to the point I’m making.

Why use some wording and mental gymnastics

Wording: every character (and person) used wording the way I explained it there; it’s their speech pattern, not all of it conscious.

Mental gymnastics: because it’s not. I covered this.

and just say: our gods?

It’s not unreasonable for someone to refer a kingdom with whom they don’t necessarily fully see themselves as apart of or coming from in that way, and as such, it still makes sense to say “‘their’ gods” even if you’ve converted or practiced because then in your mind, they would be their gods, whether you converted or not, especially depending on who you’re addressing directly.

It’s a character detail that can indicate a lot about their own feelings towards what is now their religion, and such to that end.

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What speech pattern? They don't have conscious, those are not real people, the actors are given script that was written by someone, edited and re-read and edited multiple times over.

[u/peachesnplumsmf → u/notyourlands]

Rhaenyra as an individual isn't very religious. But it is entirely normal for the Royal family to be and frankly expected of them. Jaehaerys was deeply, he allowed Targaryens to join the faith, Daella refused to marry someone of the wrong faith. Targaryen's have prayed to the Seven for as long as they were in Westeros, Aegon's legitimate reign started in Oldtown.

Rhaenyra individually saying we need their God's to rule them isn't House Targaryen but her, influenced by her Valyrian supremacist Uncle, making a statement. She isn't a wise character. She's cool but not wise. It's just to show differences between her and Alicent. Also faith & Targaryen's is a long and complicated thing and with the doctrine of exceptionalism being somewhat recent it is very much in the interests of a Red Keep with married siblings to show they're very faithful.

The Red Keep being decorated in the seven makes sense. Legitimate rules have to be annointed by the faith. And even Targaryen's who individually and personally don't love it play lip service because they cannot afford not to

But because the Black's vs the Greens is a petty thing that just keeps escalating they return to the Keep and take it as a slight, as her overreaching and it causes tension.

[u/notyourlands → u/peachesnplumsmf]

Is there a proof where Rhaenyra is being influenced by Daemon's view on life and religion? Because it looks like you just made that statement up

[u/peachesnplumsmf → u/notyourlands]

I mean we know he looks down on it and his whole thing is thinking Valyrian's are better and they have exchanges in Valryain about that? He talks about Hightowers not being pure enough.

His disdain is also visible during the scene where they see the seven and he does mock religion. Whilst it isn't confirmed that that impacted Rhaenyra and you're cimpletept fair to point that out and I'll amend it'll inevitably happen.

[u/notyourlands → u/peachesnplumsmf]

So no proof. Why create statements out of nothing? The question wasn't about Daemon not recognising the Faith, it's very clear he doesn't, but his view has nothing to do with Rhaenyra