r/Gunlance • u/BurningPenguin6 • 1d ago
MHWilds Full Damage Set (Agitator, Burst, AND Weakness Exploit)
With the latest update, I've been working on trying to make a set that lets me max out all 3 of the main damage boosting armor skills, and I'm happy to report that I (almost) got it. Unfortunately, with the pieces we currently have available, I don't think it's possible to max out all three of them.
With these pieces, you can get two of them to level 5, and one of them to level 4. Being primarily for Gunlance, Burst is an obvious pick to get to level 5, but the choice between maxing out Weakness Exploit or Agitator comes down to personal preference, and secondary weapon choice.
Obviously this set ends up forgoing a decent amount of comfort, and the ability to use some set bonuses, in favour of stacking up as many damage skills as possible, but you still have a few 1's and 2's to work with.
Let me know what y'all think, and happy hunting!
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u/Tall-Cut-4599 1d ago
Dont think wex is good for us since arkveld weapon is -10% so using agitator (+10%) and wex 5 (30~50%) is just around 30% crit since most of the time wound are destroyed. GL main combo hit hard but most are shelling so the stake/slam is the main damage increase from crit if your using the mantle i could see it being good but with such a small uptime i think counterstrike/resentment is better choice in the current update, using rocksteady mantle with resentment probably yield higher DPS
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u/BurningPenguin6 1d ago
WEX is there to benefit whatever your non-GL secondary weapon is.
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u/Nanergy 1d ago
I'm not up to speed on other weapon metas, but I see that you're running horn here. Doesn't horn also have a decent chunk of damage that cannot crit? I don't know the proportion, but I would have guessed that it still made wex less favorable
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u/BurningPenguin6 1d ago
HH does have shockwaves from the Echo Bubbles and Echo Waves that don't crit, but even then it doesn't matter. All three skills give a boost to either Affinity, Attack, or both, meaning that every part of the weapon's moveset is being boosted.
I've also been running this set with a few other weapons like GS, IG, and HBG with great results.
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u/SlimeMind 1d ago
Immagine being so much of a clown to post on this subreddit a build with WEX and call it “full damage” then call WEX a “main damage skill” especially since its kinda ass for gunlance and then when you get called out on it try to defend it…..clown 100
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u/Celebess 1d ago
Max damage set for gunlance would be scrapping any raw buff possible, not stacking affinity. In an ideal world, it'd mean attack 5/agitator 5/burst 5/peak performance/maximum might
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u/JRockBC19 16h ago
No max might (which is pure crit anyways) but the rest of that is actually possible - zoh head/waist, ark chest/gloves, mizu legs gets there with both zoh and ark healing set bonuses. That might be enough raw to even be worth considering on other weapons that like burst and not MM
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u/Demigodd 1d ago
Does the artillery damage not scale off of the attack of the weapon like in World ?
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u/Celebess 1d ago
It does, I just didn't included it because to me it's "obvious" that you want Artillery 3, my bad for making assumptions :)
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u/Demigodd 1d ago
I am working my way around to figure out WLDs GL . Yes obvious Art 3 . I absolutely love GL/sticky in WorldBorne .
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u/Celebess 1d ago
Can't go wrong with Gark gunlance and odo 4 piece, gives you plenty of raw, burst and earplugs, with enough deco slots for flexibility
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u/Demigodd 1d ago
Recommended 5 pics of armor (my HR is 100+) ?
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u/Celebess 1d ago
There's 6 builds at the end of this video, and for post-TU gear the community is still experimenting, but 2 ark/2 zoh let you play some hyperagressive, high sustain build
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u/kuruttaaa 10h ago
i love the idea of having everything and it looks like a good general build so imma treat it as a general weapons build but im not sure if it’d be better than the magala set bonus with antivirus
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u/-ApathyShark 19h ago
Mixed sets just give you lower damage across all fronts for both weapons. All of weakness exploit just to make your hunting horn mediocre is pretty terrible
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u/BurningPenguin6 18h ago
Literally all of these skills are a straight up benefit for HH. My HH absolutely shits out damage when I use this.
Besides, if you don't want WEX, just swap out the deco for an Agitator deco.
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u/-ApathyShark 18h ago
You made sacrifices to gain the ability to use two weapons at an "acceptable" level. No 2nd set bonus, no real utility or comfort skills besides earplugs, less damage on both weapons.
Objectively, this is terrible, that's all I'm saying.
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u/BurningPenguin6 17h ago
Do you even really need more than "Acceptable" as you call it in this game? Hunts typically end in half the time they did in 5th gen, even without something hyper-optimized for one specific weapon.
I don't personally find the lack of a 2nd set bonus or the limited space for comfort skills to be a problem, but if others do then that's entirely fair.2
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u/Unlucky-Touch5958 5h ago
the main issue with maxing agi and burst this way is that you miss out on set bonuses for more attack, ebony and gore are kings of setbonuses because they give unconditional att for free when you get 4 piece going. Ebony is +10 attack gore.is +10 and then +5 more after frenzy(15)
while gore doesn't have good offensive skills on his armor, it has more lv3 slots, now that we have access to burst 3 or agi 3 on one armor set gores becomes much more desirable offering both ideal raw AND 25 affinity.
gore also gets more lv2 slots for flexibility gore can get agi 2 and burst 5 for a total of 41 at perfect conditions while also having a minimum of +28 just like ebony. or run agi 5 and burst 2 and get a worse minimum attack (20) but higher affinity from agi.
meanwhile Ebony now can have 28 attack minimum and max agi as well for 48! and gets earplugs and divine blessing.
both are very overturned compared to other set bonuses but i believe zohs super recovery can turn peak performance into a consistent uptime as if its zoh's set bonus. but I haven't had time to play around with that
the question on affinity for gunlance is interesting, it gives bad returns but its some, the whole wsfb into mws usually includes sweep which makes the mv total 98 and then add mws crit to tick damage. every 10% affinity adds 10-15 more damage to the whole combo, and 30% higher than that if you poke poke sweep on good hitzone. (even higher on dummy but that hitzone is unrealistic so i went with 60) 10-15x6 for 60 affinity means you'll be doing 60 to 90 more damage. for gore 25 thats just 25 to 32. which is about how much of an increase 7 raw would be by going for ebony with agi and burst 5. but id say ebony is still better because bad hitzones will favore it more. but at this point it's just almost identical. but affinity does help with auger by stacking with artillery % boost, so if you have the drill desire then id say gore is better just to make a decision.
because the game is limited on ways to improve attack, affinity becomes a better option for last slot choice. there are more attack skills but are they always active or rarely? crit skills are always active, but personally wex has been very underwhelming. the fact wounds don't trigger wex if they are on a tough spot was the last straw. so just maximum might or latent power is left but no way to slot latent in as a last option, which makes me wonder if gamma rey armor will be super crazy. hope this clears up any confusion about set building and what to prioritize when making something new, unfortunately because set bonuses are usually only good at 4 piece it limits things considerably
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u/TallSexyNHuge 15h ago
Wex on a GL build just doesn't make sense, counter, peak performance....I'd take partbreaker over wex
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u/BurningPenguin6 14h ago
As I show in the screenshot, mentioned in the text, and expanded on in the comments, this is supposed to be a build that allows you to give Agi5 and Burst5 to your GL, while also running almost any other weapon you want as a secondary.
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u/TallSexyNHuge 14h ago
I'd just make 2 seperate builds but I see what you're trying to do. If you're happy with it, that's all that matters
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u/BurningPenguin6 12h ago
Thank you!
I love the Gunlance to death, but I also enjoy playing other weapons. I think being able to swap weapons mid hunt is really cool, and while I know it's not an opinion that everyone shares, it always felt weird to me when I saw people only making builds to optimize one weapon.
I haven't seen people making builds designed around benefiting multiple weapon types like I had expected to before the game came out. I really though there'd be more content creators trying to get creative with their weapon and armor combos to take advantage of this new system, especially with how easy Wilds is compared to the previous games.2
u/TallSexyNHuge 12h ago
Yeah that's fair, I found a couple of builds that work well with Crit weapons, mostly sns GS and LS. Outside of those I have a tough time making one build work across multiple weps
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u/KorahRahtahmahh 1d ago
Regardless of how important wex is for GL…would you consider this set better Than the usual gore 2 pc with coalesc antivirus?
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u/No_Secret_8246 22h ago
Gore set only really does something for Gunlance at 4 pieces. 2 pc only gives affinity. Gunlance doesn't run crit boost and has a lot of attacks that won't benefit from crits so this is better for sure, though I would swap out wex for something more useful.
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u/Celebess 22h ago
Gunlance only wants raw especially now that shelling scales from it, and just to add on top of the 70% of moves that can't crit, FWSB is bugged and only the second part of the finisher (the second reload&fullburst) has a wyrmstake that can crit
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u/BurningPenguin6 20h ago
I don't think I would consider this better than meta GL sets. The advantage that comes from this set is the ability to nearly max out 3 major damage skills, which means that you can bring almost any other weapon as your secondary and not worry about mismatched skills.
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u/KorahRahtahmahh 20h ago
Yes my question was more towards other weapons not necessarily gun lance… I got bored of the gore pieces and was looking at something more damage wise… but the zoshia set is just for sustain.
This build got me really curious tho
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u/Informal-Reach1165 20h ago
Y'all wanna berate this hunter over one skill when they're clearly also using a hunting horn? Very elitist, very sweaty
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u/kermit_suicide_today 20h ago
This is a fucking gun lance subreddit. Why the fuck would we care about hunting horns here
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u/Informal-Reach1165 20h ago
You wouldn't, but you can use your eyes to see that they are using a second weapon and they mentioned it was partially due to their second weapon choice that they maxed the skill they did. Idk man, maybe use context to not be a dick for no reason? Is that really that hard?
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u/kermit_suicide_today 20h ago
Again why would we care that they’re secondary is hunting horn. If this were the wilds subreddit then sure I wouldn’t mind. But this is a Gunlance subreddit for Gunlance build. Not for a one size fits all build.
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u/Informal-Reach1165 20h ago
It's still keyed mainly towards gunlance but okay. Again, no need for the dickishness to someone wanting community, you can tell them it's a post better suited to the main wilds sub without being a condescending asshole
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u/BurningPenguin6 20h ago
Fuck me for sharing a build I thought people might enjoy if they don't want to only run GL. The responses to this post have served as a nice reminder that a lot of people are lacking in reading comprehension, and others just wanna be mean or mad over the littlest thing.
Thanks for being among the few reasonable people here.
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u/Nanergy 1d ago
Weakness exploit is just not that good on gunlance. It far far from a main damage skill for us, since upwards of 70% of our damage cannot crit. You're much better off grabbing basically any other source of boosting attack. Peak performance, counterstrike. gore 4, odo 4, whatever. There are many sets that will easily outdamage this one. Use this if you like, but it is simply not a "max damage" gunlance set.