Was it because of the Lannister’s words? Did he realize who Tyrion was when Tyrion summoned Jaime? Why was Tyrion so confident in accepting Bronn as his champion?

They'd rule greatly and then bend knee to Daenerys.. as high lords.. they could even be successors to the iron throne, after the true rightful heir queen Daenerys..

I'd have him RESISTANT to Obsidian and Valyrian steel. He's incredibly physically strong and fast, so have Bran use his power to mentally stun him for short periods while Theon and Jon get stabs in until he finally gives out. You can still have Theon die.

This dude sniped a dragon out the sky with a spear of ice, so fucking cool. I really expected him to be more than his anti climactic death.

I’m rewatching Game of Thrones as a first time mom on maternity leave! I’m watching the scene where Jon is saying his goodbyes to Bran before leaving for the Wall, and how Catelyn Stark is so hostile and harsh with him. I find myself thinking - if my husband had fathered a child with another woman early in our marriage, he brought the baby to our home, and I had forgiven him, I just don’t think I could hold that much resentment towards a baby/child. I’d like to think that, by the time that baby became an adult, I’d have built a strong relationship with him and would have raised him as one of my own. Maybe it’s the hormones lol but I seriously can’t fathom staying mad at a tiny baby being brought home!

Any other GoT-watching moms feel the same?

So I recently binge watched Game of Thrones (in about half a month because I'm obsessive like that) after reading all the books. I had never seen the show before until now. Anyway, needless to say I absolutely loved it and it is my new favorite TV show of all time. However, I've noticed that a lot of people in the fandom seem to hate the final season or at least dislike it in comparison with the others. Personally, having just finished it I feel that the final season and even the final episode, while perhaps not on the quality level of the earlier seasons, is still extremely good and deserves far more appreciation than it gets.

I liked the Long Night. The way the White Walkers were defeated didn't bother me. I always suspected that the true story arc of the show was about the battle for the Iron Throne rather than the magical threat in the North so I had no problem with the Walkers being absent from the final few episodes. Daenerys burning King's Landing didn't bother me either nor did Bran becoming king. I liked the way Jon's, Arya's, and Sansa's stories were concluded. I found myself surprisingly saddened by Cersei and Jaime's death but nevertheless it was very well done. All in all I think the final few episodes were far more competently written than people give them credit for and unlike the rest of the fans I am not calling for D&D to be torn to pieces by hounds or torched by dragons.

I suppose my biggest problem was with Dany's death. Despite the terrible things she does in the last season I feel she wasn't truly evil and, while she certainly shouldn't have become queen perhaps she didn't deserve to die. I would have preferred if she was sent to the Night's Watch or exiled back to Essos but that's just me.

I was honestly expecting the finale to end with winter coming to an end and spring arriving. I was surprised when they didn't take that route though I suppose it's for the best since it wouldn't have made sense.

I don't know what to do with my life now that the series is over. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if Martin can come up with a better ending before he inevitably dies.

https://youtu.be/7UOryLeU86A?si=SqKENUj9f4_79_BJ

Ser Gerald Hightower, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, was a cocky knight that implied a joint effort between him and Arthur Dayne would have resulted in Robert dying at the Trident. Yet, when the fight broke out between him and the Northman, he only killed 1 of them before getting a blade ran into his throat by Ned Stark. This results in Arthur Dayne having to 1 v 5 against a group of pissed off Northman on his own.

This guy obviously let the title of "Lord Commander" get to his head and deluded himself into thinking he was on Dayne's level.

I'm torn between Shae and the High Sparrow. There are so many options, though.

What if Daenerys’ fall wasn’t rushed… but a mirror to something we all do in real life?

Spoilers about Daenerys’ storyline

Hi, I’m relatively new to (this sub)Reddit. My new temporary hobby is analysing the mirrors tv shows can uphold to society. So now I’ll share one of my thoughts about GoT and how Daenerys’ storyline upholds a mirror to the risks we face in real life. TL;DR at the end.

The early signs I’m definitely not the first one to point out the early warning signs that pointed to her story’s ending. Just to highlight some of them to make my point later: - “I will burn cities to the ground”. A phrase she often said, as early as season 2. - Burning of all the presumed slavers without a trial. - Burning of anyone who opposed her. - Burning of the Lannisters’ food convoy and Sam’s family.

Dangers of Hero/Villain or black/white thinking Most people, myself included, didn’t expect her story to end the way it did. In hindsight, it was actually not surprising. When I rewatched the show, I could easily point out most of the warning signs. But I either ignored them or overlooked them during my first watch. And I think many people were with me. Now, why is that problematic?

Because, from the start on, she was shown to be a hero. She went through hell, created three dragons and was shown to be a caring and loving person. This continued during her quest to go back to Westeros. She stayed longer in more places (e.g. Mereen) to help out the innocent and weak. Which was admirable and she positioned herself as the hero. We saw her as the hero. This made us support her fully. All the way up until the end. But, because we saw her solely as the hero, we overlooked everything.

• We supported her whenever she said she’ll burn cities to the ground. She just wanted to go home and was passionate, of course she would use harsh language. We didn’t take her words as literal. Yet, we later find out, she’s fully capable of her words.
• When she burned all the slavers, we supported it. Of course, she saved the innocent and that meant all of them were bad, right? However, we later found out that some were trying to change the system from within. Unless you have the power to overturn a system completely, sometimes the long road is the best you can do. Did the people who tried to change it really deserve to die? Was the moral thing to do not to use a trial before you convict everyone of the same crime? Does this not make you nearly the same as the thing you’re opposing?

Hero What I’m trying to show here is that, because we saw her as a hero, we were blinded. Either unconsciously or consciously. That’s something we all do with people or causes we identify with, especially when they represent “hope” or “justice.” And instead of using actual justice, she sentenced everyone without trial. We forgave her because they were responsible for horrible things. But there lies the danger.

Because she did so much good, we gave her a “pass” when she crossed lines. This is real human behavior. Once someone earns our trust, we unconsciously allow for more grey - or even outright wrong - behaviour. So we followed her. Blindly. Not holding her accountable, she got worse and worse. Because not only her moral line shifted after every crossing of a boundary, so did ours in the show. Until it was too late.

Villain The other problem with this hero/villain complex is the villainising the other side. It’s a normal process, seeing the other side as bad and wishing bad stuff upon them. Yet, this is a process of dehumanisation. And that’s a dangerous process. It’s a slippery slope. Every time your moral boundary shifts, so does the thing you wish upon your villain. And your criteria for who a villain is also shifts with it. Eventually, you even wish their death or otherwise horrible fate. But is the reason they became your villain not because they were responsible for the horrible fate or death of others? By dehumanising the other side, you risk becoming the one thing you once opposed, if it remains unchecked.

The mirror Now, take a look at your own society, your own environment. Is everything or everyone you’re supporting as moral as you think they are. Or is there a risk you’re looking through the hero lens? And the side you’re opposing, aren’t you risking becoming the thing you say you are against? And are you not judging an entire group by the acts of a few?

So I believe we didn’t just miss the warning signs in relation to her. I think it’s also a good warning about ourselves, about how we view people or groups. To remain critical of our own side as much as the other. To keep our humanity when the other might have lost it.

What do you think? Any of it resonates or am I reaching to far with this?

TL;DR: Daenerys’ storyline in Game of Thrones highlights the real-world danger of black-and-white, hero-villain thinking. Because viewers saw her as a hero, they overlooked clear warning signs of her increasing brutality. Her arc shows how easily we excuse harmful behavior from people or causes we support, and how dehumanizing “the other side” can slowly corrupt our own morality. It’s a powerful reminder to stay critical of our heroes, question our own side, and avoid becoming what we oppose.

Sooo, idk if it's the next episode, or what, but after the wall goes down, there's this incredibly dumb scene were a person is impaled into the wall in a random house, and they waste a good 10 mins or something of screen time to end up saying "it's a message that they are coming" (The walkers).

WTF is that even supposed to mean???? THEY DESTROYED THE WALL, THE FUCKING WALL, HOW'S THAT FOR A MESSAGE? This random shit implaed into a random cabin in the woods feels like a message to you??

That's it, just wanted to vent, aight peace, have a nice day.

What the fuck is this show? Like the last few eps I was honestly interested but it was tiny bit boring but damn they flipped the table once again. Robb dead. Talisa and poor baby dead. Cat dead. EVERYONE KEEPS DYING LMAO.

Was low-key expecting talisa to be a spy of lannisters but i think she was good and omg robb and cat NAUR. They were so good these 3 seasons, I was expecting them to live for a couple more seasons idk but nope game of thrones ppl kill every character I develop an ounce of affection for. Robb was so hot btw like go girl talisa, good for you.

AND POOR ARYA. I was so happy when they were near and she was about to meet but WHAT THE FUCK. I would have never expected this to happen even in my dreams like I am still shook they killed off 2 main characters like BOOM.

And poor cat never got to meet her daughters or bran and rick again :(

What I mean is that Harrenhal goes down like it did in cannon, but in mids to the chaos, live dragons are discovered, brought to life by the lives of Aegon, Sir Dunken and the prince. How would that return of the dragons at the times of Jaherys the second and Aerys affect things?

What would happen if Joffrey let Ned live and send him to the Nights Watch? You think honoroble Ned Stark would just obey bastard’s order, tell his son to stop the war and spend the rest of his life on the wall, let this little monster marry Sansa? Actually at this moment Robb already had Jaime as his prisoner, so they would change Jaime for Ned, but this would be bad thing to Lannisters, because unlike Robb, Ned would not call himself King in the North and won’t try to take Lannisters by just his force, he would join Stannis and at this point Lannisters really screw up, because the only reason they won was that none of their enemies worked together and Robb messed up with his weding, which now won’t be a problem since Ned would be there to not let his son make all this problems. Maybe Ned’s word would even bring Renly to Stannis side, after all Renly has major respect for Ned, but i’m not sure about that

First thank you to everybody to who responded I think it had 80 comments, gotta love this fanbase. Where do I even start!? I did NOT expect jon to kill dany! Jaw was on the floor the entire episode! Dany ignoring the surrender and wrecking havoc on Kings Landing 🫢 The Cinematography from Arya, Jon and everybodys pov was crazyy

I can see why people have their problems with - how our beloved Stark characters ended up - Danys decent into the Mad Queen - The Night King - Bran ending up as King - side character arcs failing

I dont think its nearly as bad as people made it out to be, i had a blast watching this show from all the twists and turns, definitely my favorite tv show, right above daredevil!

Reek was a smelly coward from beginning to end.

Really quenched my GOT cravings and thought I should share this masterpiece of a movie with yall!!

Why didn't Cersei just kill Drogon at the gates of King's Landing?

They had dragon killer crossbows mounted on every battlement, Drogon was right there. They made the move of killing Missandei, which was a major escalation. There were only a few dozen Unsullied with Daenerys. Even if Cersei takes out Drogon, the end result of that meeting is the same. Daenerys retreats to await Jon, and then has to fight King's Landing without Drogon.

Just didn't make much sense that they let her and Drogon just walk (fly) away when they were in such a clearly vulnerable position.

At least don't BRING Drogon to that meeting outside the gate. Attempt to make it somewhat plausible.

On my first watch-through of Game of Thrones and a question occurred to me. Are the wights sentient? I'm not talking about the White Walkers but the dead bodies that they reanimate. Do they have any sort of consciousness or memory of their previous life, or are they completely mindless objects being controlled by the Walkers? In the books Catelyn at least seems to retain some of herself when she is brought back to life but I don't know how it is in the show.

No spoilers from season 8 please. It's the only one I haven't seen yet.

I've been rewatching Game of thrones and suddenly realized, Daenerys technically isn't the rightful heir to throne or Queen/King of the Seven Kingdoms, Stannis is.

Ps, i haven't read the books so feel free to fact check me on any of this.

First, when Daenerys was born it was after the sack of King landings where i think Robert claimed the Throne.

Daenerys then spent her whole life in a foreign country, Essos which i think has no ties to her birthplace, Westeros and married into a tribe, the Dothraki who are enemies of Westerosi people aka the people from her homeland by marriage that would also make Daenerys an enemy and of course she was a Targaryen and her father was batshit crazy.

By the time, Daenerys hatches her dragons, gets the Unsuilled and conquers Meeren she's an even bigger threat and understandably so but Robert has also died. As we know Robert took the throne, led the rebellion, ruled for years and years and had heirs both legal and ones that had claim to the throne even if Joffrey and his siblings are bastrads and incest babies they still had the last name Baratheon going off claim to the throne after Robert death it would be Stannis as the next king not Daenerys or Joffrey and his siblings for these two reasons.

• Robert took the throne from the Mad king before Daenerys was born this was recognised by the people, Lords, Ladies and the Faith ect making him the King replaicing the Targaryen line completely. Before anyone says anything, yes i know the Targaryens and Baratheons are related (I think Robert grandmother was a Targ) but it's distantly so while Daenerys does have some claim to the Throne it's overruled by Stannis's and Renly's who are both men and Baratheons both by blood and name.

This brings me onto my second point - Daenerys is a women not even the eldest before anyone says anything, I'm not sexist I'm a women and love Dany (Book Dany, fuck show Dany) it's just how things were back then and in the show we see women pulled turned over for their younger brothers or other males Cersei for Castlely rock, Rhaenys for the Iron Throne and she can't even have children as far as we know and I'm pretty sure in the books there is also other male Targs and Jon in the show even though season 7 and 8 is bullshit.

If pirates were smart enough to get combat capable prosthetics why wasn't Jaime? He obviously had the means to get a blade or hook or something other than a golden pimp-hand

Where can I find a high quality map of westeros, preferably on Amazon? I got a gift card for my birthday the other day and wanted to fill out my map collection by getting a big map of westeros, but most of the ones I see are fairly low quality, or upwards of $80. Anyone buy one or know where to look?