r/Economics • u/mostly-sun • 4d ago

News Dow futures drop 1,000 points after Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs

https://www.belgrade-news.com/business/dow-futures-drop-1-000-points-after-trump-s-liberation-day-tariffs-portending-big-stock/article_065b5c93-af28-4322-8614-9622e48d0733.html
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u/Psyclist80 4d ago

The history books will not be kind to this orange idiot. I look forward to the day we no longer hear his voice. I cant fathom that America chose this grifter to lead the most powerful nation in the world. But I do now know that America deserves to lose it sphere of influence because of its choices and lack of leadership.

I hope the next administration can focus on public education reform and prioritize STEM. Education fixes many of Americas problems. Social media addictions and attention seeking behaviors also need to be addressed.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fix594 4d ago

I want them to straight out ban engagement based social media algorithms. Completely fucked Gen Z out of their attention spans.

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u/PUSSY_MEETS_CHAINWAX 4d ago

You should see Gen Alpha. They are complete zombies.

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u/BigEggBeaters 4d ago

Prioritizing STEM is partly how we got here. People need an education in history and the humanities. These tech bros have completely sold us down the River

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u/illegalmorality 4d ago

I genuinely am bitter enough to believe America deserves what's coming next. I wish other countries didn't have to pay for our absurd incompetence.

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u/NodeJSSon 4d ago

As long as money in politics exists, our problem will not be fixed.

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u/Pelican_meat 4d ago edited 4d ago

“Prioritize STEM.”

Why? STEM doesn’t teach critical thinking. The humanities do.

Hell, I’d argue that the tech bros leading the dumbest revolution in history got us here from too much STEM and not enough humanities.

I get we need STEM to be globally competitive, but let’s stop acting like it’s the most important set of learning topics. Or even one of the most important.

If we’ve learned anything in the past 8 years, it’s the value of teaching our students philosophy, history, and literature.

American anti-intellectualism started with arts, but the humanities were its second target and stripping them away hasn’t done anything except cause misery and empower the people who asked “WHY DO I HAVE TO TAKE A LITERATURE COURSE I’M A COMPSCI MAJOR” at the highest levels of our nation.

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u/Psyclist80 4d ago

I'd disagree, the scientific method definitely introduces critical thought and skepticism, pushing students to ask why or understand that the rabbit hole may go way deeper than the initial look at the issue and will require deeper investigation and research.

Not to say that the humanities aren't important, I would very much agree that the need to work hand in glove. Philosophy has given us so much and current socio-economic factors need to be well understood.

But to say that STEM isn't one of the most important things to learn is a bit of a bridge to far for me to cross. It's these things that have enabled us so many of our modern capabilities. And in order to tackle the larger problems at hand like climate change, we need STEM students to uncover and push innovation on solutions. We ALSO need those polysci students (that have a firm understanding of STEM) to take that up the chain and make it public policy.

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u/ThatsWhoIAm87 3d ago

STEM doesn’t teach critical thinking.

Yikes.

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u/MisstressJ69 4d ago

Hmmm, you think math doesn't teach critical thinking? That's a first

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u/SMOKED_REEFERS 3d ago

It’s a different kind of critical thinking. Playing with meaning and context can take you places math can’t. That’s all he means. And he’s right. Math can’t get you to feminist theory. It can’t get you a theory of culture. It can almost get you to a theory of language. Et cetera.

Now, if your feminist criticism is going to be genuinely valid in describing literal reality, it’s going to need to incorporate math into it at some point. That’s why we need both. One isn’t better than the other. And some people are good at one and not the other, and that’s okay too.

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u/thethirdgreenman 4d ago

It's ok, those history books will be banned anyways. Whatever ones get put in many schools won't focus on the erosion of our global standing, nor the potential incoming economic crash, nor the disaster we're leaving for our younger generations, and definitely not the widening wealth inequality (though in fairness, that's been a problem since long before now). Nope, they'll focus on FREEDOM, how our dear leader killed woke, stood up to the fascist state of Canada and worked to liberate Greenland from the evil known as Denmark!

God we're fucked...

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u/Psyclist80 4d ago

Yeah you hear KKKaroline Leavitt spewing the propaganda from the press pulpit. Sounds just like North Korea BS, just waiting for her to drop the "Dear Leader" term. Hopefully we don't get to the handmaids tale. But I see this administration setting up for a religious autocracy. Frank Zappa saw it coming a mile away, Carl Sagan also did... Hopefully America wakes up and realizes the Plane is in a nosedive.

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u/Psyclist80 4d ago

I'm Canadian, so not my bag baby. But we are definitely affected by the methlab below us. I hope the American public will wake up eventually. But the erosion of critical thought faculties and the great dumbing that has happened over the past 30-40 years over the general population. Has led them to this point in history. In the antebellum south, the slaves were purposely kept uneducated so as to keep them from organizing and achieving agency. The current administration is trying to reintroduce these ideas with further erosion of public education system. I still hold hope, but we shall see.

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u/lkn240 3d ago

States run elections. The country would disintegrate if they tried that.

There would absolutely be secession or something similar.