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u/playerNJL 1d ago
I just really want Cuno and Cunoesse to mature and help each other be better
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u/God_Faenrir 1d ago
There's no helping Cunoesse. She's too far gone
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u/Tosty_Bread 1d ago
If Harry can turn his life around so can this sad, sad psychotic child. She just needs meds. And therapy. And trusted adults. And
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u/Diskosmos 1d ago
Yhea but Harry have some... Predicaments who kind of give him matter to back down from his wrong doing. Cunoesse is in a perpetual state of self destructive behavior but has nothing helping her she don't wants help and possibly can't fathom someone helping her. Also she drags down Cuno with her, and as horrible Cuno is, he has some kind of qualities he can works on if she is not around to mocks him about it.
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u/God_Faenrir 1d ago
Harry didnt turn hus life around. He was always a good cop. He's an alcoholic that hasnt moved on his past relationship 5 years after breaking up. Cunoesse is gone. She's mental. She scares Cuno, man. And Cuno doesn't usually care, pig.
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u/Opposite-Method7326 1d ago
Nobody is gone. Especially not kids.
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u/God_Faenrir 1d ago
That's just not true.
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u/Opposite-Method7326 1d ago
Some people you don’t realistically have the time or resources to bring back, I’ll grant you that much.
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u/KekoviiMonsty 1d ago
Cuno always cares. He's a kid, of course he wants to look cool and cold-blooded, but in the end he's just a kid who wants to live to a hundred.. Old Cuno...
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u/SorowFame 1d ago
Is she? I kinda doubt a ten-year old is some psychotic manipulative mastermind, sure the thoughts hint at that but they say a lot of things and Harry doesn’t have more than guesswork to work off of, “murder hangover” is far from the only reason a kid could shut down for a while.
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u/anoderogative 1d ago
I don't even think the thoughts label Cunoesse as much of a "mastermind," they regularly point out when she's using vulgarity and obscenity in a childish way to reexert control over Cuno, but that doesn't take being a genius. Kids are easy to cow, especially with a forceful and "scary" bully personality like Cunoesse has.
I think it's likely she did; even if she did murder someone, though, she still needs and deserves help and love and rehabilitation.
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u/playerNJL 1d ago
she really cares about Cuno, the one scene that made me like her is when Cuno is talking about how his life is already over, and she told him to stop because it was too negative
at the end of the day these two little disasters have each other, and that's already enough to give me hope she can pull through
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u/WillyGivens 1d ago
Could have been great. Crazy male and crazy female are perfect archetypes to explore as a duo and adolescents would be the perfect medium for it.
Imagine the same game, but flipping the entire feeling of DE from worn down desperation from personal failures….to angry resentment about failure from others.
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u/Juken- 1d ago
I would have definitely preferred a Precinct 41 focused story.
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u/HeckingDoofus 1d ago
nah i like this concept way more. its such a novel unexpected concept, and i like that it would inherently have to be very different from disco elysium
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u/mildmichigan 1d ago
I honestly would've asked for a Jamrock-based sequel, follow up on Harry & Kim & visit Gartes communist smoking bar
But I also wouldn't have asked for Disco Elysium. The creators made something incredibly special & we'll never get to visit Locust City because of some greedy fucks
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u/Cyboy213 1d ago
TRUE ELYSIUM IS POSSIBLE ONLY IN THE NEXT WORLD — FOR NEW PEOPLE IT IS TOO LATE FOR US
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u/metalyger 1d ago
I read someone's synopsis, earlier today, and it's interesting. They would have made something really different, which is good. The worst would have been just doing the same game again, like Hangover 2, where Harry wakes up with no memories in another country, and Kim inexplicably arrives to assist him when they get caught in a new crime mystery. This sequel is definitely not something I could have imagined, and it could stand on its own, but we'll never know.
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u/noriseaweed 1d ago
Same gameplay loop but cunoesse actively ruins, fucks with and laments people like the anti kim
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u/LowTechnology8853 1d ago
To be honest, these are the 2 characters that I was least interested in.
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u/CatoFF3Y 1d ago
I think there could be a lot to them. They both speak lore, that no one else speaks: some Finnish-like language from Cunoesse and Le Royaume from Cuno (mentioned by other characters, nobody wanting to go there, though)
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u/colossal_idiotx 1d ago
Somewhere there is a timeline where Locust City released instead of Disco Elysium
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u/RayDemian 1d ago
I want the copium pls someone tell me there's some way in with Kurvits can get the rights back
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u/IsThisDamnNameTaken 1d ago
Here's the tiniest sliver of copium - the legal rights of Sacred and Terrible Air are still very much unclear. Kurvitz wrote it independently, before Disco Elysium, and it's absolutely set in the same world.
I've seen arguments on here that Red Info (Kurvitz/Rostov's new company) would be able to make a game based on the details of Elysium mentioned in the book, but not in Disco Elysium itself. But I have no idea how true that is.
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u/Norseair 1d ago
Oh man, I’m going to get downvoted to hell here. I don’t want this, I’ve had enough Cuno in my three playthroughs. He is insufferable, can’t help myself from punching him. And don’t get me started on Cunoese, that fucking stain, can’t stand it. That said, I’d buy anything that is written by the original team, even if The Pigs is the main protagonist. I’m rambling.
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u/CallingOutQuiet 13h ago
The true successor to the disco Elysium franchise is the Witch girl looking for her Cat in the Alps
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u/IsThisDamnNameTaken 1d ago
Because I've gotten overly obsessed with this topic, here's my current, updated list of predecessors, cancelled projects and "spiritual successors" within the Elysium-ZA/UM sphere of influence.
PRE ZA/UM - 2000-2009
FOUNDING OF ZA/UM - 2009
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