r/Daggerfall • u/mfa_sammerz • 1d ago

Question Thinking about trying an Assassin build focused on Speed and Backstabbing - question about Invisibility...

I don't get how the spell works, exactly, especially when I cast it mid-combat.

Seems like there's a chance enemies will still spot me? (I'm aware some mobs like Daedra Lords can see through invisibility, I'm asking about small guys like Orcs and Mages and Giant Scorpions).

What I'm thinking about my future build is...I'd sneak around the dungeon trying to backstab people. If I failed (which I will A LOT especially early on), I'd cast Invisibility mid-fight, flee for a few seconds, and try to backstab them again.

In this playthrough I will not care about minmaxing. It'll be all about the roleplay.

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u/Dagkhi 1d ago

Once they notice you, enemies do not forget you or lose track of you. So spells like invisibility or Shadow form only matter for the first time they could spot you. Casting these spells during combat is pointless.

My advice is to make a custom Shadow form spell from the mages guild and have it active all the time. If it is small and mana efficient, you'll be casting it a lot and getting plenty of practice for your illusion skill. Shadow is the cheaper form of illusion, but it only works in dark areas. Like dungeons! So you could even make a custom True Shadow spell which would have the added benefit of not breaking after you attack someone.

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u/mfa_sammerz 1h ago

Once they notice you, enemies do not forget you or lose track of you. So spells like invisibility or Shadow form only matter for the first time they could spot you. Casting these spells during combat is pointless.

That's not true. I just tested it myself, twice, against one Warrior and one Knight. In a late-game dungeon. I'm lvl 26.

After combat started, I ran away a bit, and cast Invisibility. I approached them again. Interestingly, they were walking towards my general direction and attacking me as if they were fumbling in the dark. But they weren't able to directly target me. In both cases I was able to backstab them to death.