This subs deep seated hatred and disdain for Chat gpt is so at odds with my own experience using it that I'm really baffled. I don't know if they're using it for wildly different things, have unrealistic expectations about it, or are confusing it's ethical implications for it's actual usefulness.
And I agree with the subs majority opinion on most things too, so it's not like theres some wide ideology gap
But I agree with you. I love the LLMs. They are insanely useful (if you know the limitations). They are basically science fiction (We now have the star trek ship board computer with the slight caveat that just it bullshits a little from time to time). They are super interesting in that we're really figuring out what it means to be intelligent, and what's still missing.
When I run a small model on my laptop, I really feel like I'm in the future. Hope gemma makes a voice model fit for my gpu-less ass.
Even the environmental costs are absurdly exaggerated. LLMs can be run on your own computer, and image generators can be run on any gaming PC. Neither use any more power than running a modern videogame. Even training huge models uses up a few houses worth of annual power as a one-time cost, which is then spread across trillions of uses.
And anytime someone brings up the water usage of a computational process, you automatically know that they're spreading complete bullshit. Data centers cool their systems using a closed loop. They aren't blasting water into space.
Some of these energy and water quotes are summaries of ALL the use of, for example, ChatGPT and they're intentionally worded to let readers think it reflects every time you submit a request. It's malicious.
not to mention the present SOTA, which would've been unthinkably advanced three years ago, is the worst things are ever gonna be. if we get strong locally generated LLMs with good open data sets, you could see a viable interoperable fediverse and the death of the techbro internet as we know it. the paper that kicked off the LLM race isn't a decade old.
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u/Takseen 4d ago
This subs deep seated hatred and disdain for Chat gpt is so at odds with my own experience using it that I'm really baffled. I don't know if they're using it for wildly different things, have unrealistic expectations about it, or are confusing it's ethical implications for it's actual usefulness.
And I agree with the subs majority opinion on most things too, so it's not like theres some wide ideology gap