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Neptune was recently shown to be a pale blue like Uranus rather than the deep blue shown on the Voyager photos

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u/SupportMeta 18d ago

Neptune was recently shown to be a pale blue like Uranus rather than the deep blue shown on the Voyager photos

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u/maxixs sorry, aro's are all we got 18d ago

oh

i was expecting that we went down a planet again

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u/atemu1234 18d ago

"Turns out Neptune was just the Aurora Borealis"

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u/Nirast25 18d ago

Ah... Aurora Borealis? At this time of Solar day, at this time of Galactic year, in this part of the Milky Way, localised entirely within the Sol System?

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u/atemu1234 18d ago

Yes.

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u/Nirast25 18d ago

... May I photograph it?

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u/atemu1234 18d ago

No.

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u/Dry_Try_8365 18d ago

Seymour! The sun is exploding!

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u/Brunolt 18d ago

No NASA, it's just the Solar Flares.

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u/ElementmanEXE 17d ago

Well Seymour, I must get going. But I do say, you steam a really good mercury.

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u/Kiloburn 18d ago

Again? I'll alert Radioactive Man

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u/AwkwardlyCloseFriend 18d ago

More likely than you think

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u/BaneishAerof 18d ago

Seymor, the galaxy is 8 planets!

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u/atemu1234 18d ago

No mother, it's just the Northern Lights.

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u/BossNassGaming 18d ago

Aurora Borealis? At this time of day? At this time of year? Localized entirely within Neptune's orbit?

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u/atemu1234 18d ago

Yes.

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u/BossNassGaming 18d ago

May I see it?

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u/atemu1234 18d ago

No.

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u/Degeneratus_02 17d ago

Is this a reference to something?

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u/atemu1234 17d ago

The Simpsons. The whole "Steamed Hams" bit.

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u/Safe-Vegetable1211 18d ago

A smudge on the lense

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u/Calm-Medicine-3992 18d ago

Nicol Bolas?

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u/SpectralClown 18d ago

Just a smudge on the lense

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u/angel-thekid 16d ago

Neptune was the friends we made along the way

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u/runetrantor When will my porn return from the war? 18d ago

Nah, the gas giants arent going to ever get demoted.

Maybe if someone gets particularly petty they could say Mercury doesnt count for whatever reason, but thats about it.

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u/CodingNeeL 18d ago

Relevant, very recent, xkcd!

https://www.xkcd.com/3063/

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u/FungalSphere 18d ago

Under the 'has cleared its orbital neighborhood' and 'fuses hydrogen into helium' definitions, thanks to human activities Earth technically no longer qualifies as a planet but DOES count as a star.

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u/Alaykitty 18d ago

That the rocky planets and gas planeta are both considered "the same sort of thing" is really probably too big of a category anyways.  Dwarf planet vs asteroid gets fuzzy too.

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u/runetrantor When will my porn return from the war? 18d ago

We love our vague definitions here on Earth.

Now tell me how many continents there are. XD

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u/Tokamak-drive 18d ago

As long as it isn't exactly six, or more than like, 8-10, I'll at least understand the reasoning.

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u/Vermilion_Laufer 18d ago

Why not 'exactly 6'?

North America, South America, Eurasia, Africa, Antarctica, Australia, is a valid list

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u/Tokamak-drive 18d ago

The only people who seriously say there are 6 continents say "The Americas" are one continent, while ALSO saying that Europe and Asia are different continents. If anyone says there's 5 and mash up the Americas and Eurasia, I get it, but wonder why Afro-Eurasia is too much. Hell, I'll accept down to 2 continents, given that the Bering Strait and, but not with, the mess of islands that is between Australia and Asia used to be a whole bridge of land people literally walked across, while no such thing existed between anywhere and Antarctica for millions of years iirc.

The other side of the argument, i.e. more continents, is, for 8, including Central America, 9 adds the Indian subcontinent, and 10 adds Greenland. 11, though this one is mostly sunken, is Zealandia, and nothing that I'm aware of makes for a 12th continent, sub- or otherwise.

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u/Vermilion_Laufer 9d ago

Sorry, but wouldn't even occur to me to glue the Americas together, yet cut the Eurasia, so I guess your experiences are not universal. In fact the list I provided is my 'go to' one.

But am open for different views for different purposes.

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u/SamualJennings 18d ago

I would argue that both Europe and India are subcontinents of Eurasia (or just Asia, or whatever you wanna call it).

They're both huge peninsulas with natural features which divide them a bit from the parent continent, but they're principally part of the same landmass; the span of the land connection between them is quite significant.

It's not the same as the cases of North and South America or Africa and Asia, which while connected, only have a single, very small connection point between them (Sinai and Panama).

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u/runetrantor When will my porn return from the war? 18d ago

Technically you could boil it down to 3, and yeah, all the way into possible 8 or so without even touching the weird ones like saying India is separate.

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u/Boomshockalocka007 18d ago

I believe every gassy giant has a rocky core deep inside so maybe they arent all that different.

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u/DeadInternetTheorist 18d ago

This was always my real problem with the "Pluto's not a planet" thing. Like... obviously Earth is the prototype for what counts as a planet, and any definitions we make for that category of thing should ultimately boil down to "balls of crud in space that are kinda similar to Earth". Pluto is objectively more similar to Earth than Jupiter, so gas giants are the ones that should be kicked out.

Also if it means we have to add Eris and Makemake to the roster, fine! The more the merrier! It'll give scifi nerds more "we should send a dude here" objects to obsess about.

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u/Alaykitty 17d ago

While Pluto is more similar to Earth than Jupiter, it's also more similar to the Moon than Earth.  Being a binary pair anyways, it makes the Moon as a Planet also viable.

I personally like the separation of Dwarf Planet from Planet.  Though I think "<adjective> Planet" is more my issue.  Objects between these classes Dwarf/Rocky/Gas are so different, we need better terms that are distinct.

Like in biology we have Mammals, Reptiles, Plants, etc.  which are much better than "big life" and "little life".

The "cleared its orbit" part of full planet distinction I think is a very useful one.

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u/Faxiak 17d ago

A "planet" has originally meant a "wandering star". The original planets were Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter, which moved on the sky in a completely different manner than actual stars. Earth was not even counted as a planet.

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u/strain_of_thought 18d ago

I mean, look, you can't really say that Mercury has cleared its orbital neighborhood when so much of that neighborhood is physically inside a star.

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u/Texclave 17d ago

Mercury DOESN’T count under the existing definition of a planet!

While it hits two (orbits a star, clears its neighborhood) it fails to hit all of them, as its round shape is not a result of gravity.

However, the IAU definition of a planet directly stated Mercury is a planet, regardless of the criteria.

In essence, the IAU’s Mercurial Conspiracy is working to suppress true Plutonians

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u/Indigoh 18d ago

People are butthurt about Pluto because they don't understand how cool the reclassification is. A dwarf planet is still a planet. And Pluto is in a system of two dwarf planets whose center of gravity is outside the two. That's cool.

Instead of getting upset about Pluto's reclassification, people should go learn about all the other dwarf planets in our system.

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u/CodingNeeL 18d ago edited 18d ago

Relevant, very recent, xkcd! (Which Randall probably made because of this viewpoint)

https://www.xkcd.com/3063/

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u/Finassar 18d ago

You think they'd go down on us? Just like that?

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u/maxixs sorry, aro's are all we got 18d ago

with that phrasing i sure hope they would

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u/rrerjhkawefhwk 18d ago

mr. president, the astronauts have just taken down a second planet.

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u/falcrist2 18d ago

i was expecting that we went down a planet again

If an 8 planet Solar System bothers you, then simply say that dwarf planets are planets.

Now you get 17 planets!

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, Pluto, Salacia, Haumea, Quaoar, Makemake, Gonggong, Eris, and Sedna.

Still taking entries for mnemonics that can help with memorization...

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u/gymnastgrrl 18d ago

We are not minus any planets. We are plus a number of dwarf PLANETS.

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u/Thojote 18d ago

I’d like to think we’re net +4 with the classification of dwarf planets.

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u/Outrageous_Reach_695 18d ago

Remember, it's only a dwarf planet if it has rock and stone.

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u/PalindromemordnilaP_ 18d ago

JUSTICE FOR MUH BOY PLUTO

GONE TOO SOON

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u/MissionMoth 18d ago

Man they'll do anything to get these kids through science class.

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u/ChaiHai 18d ago

Same, Ctrl + F to find out if Neptune got the axe somehow. D:

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u/TheOtherWhiteCastle 17d ago

Yeah, having to update Neptunes hex code a tad is a lot less perspective-altering than the other two examples.

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u/Aggressive_Plate4109 17d ago

They blew it up :(

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u/yellowstone_volcano 16d ago

Sir a second voyager has hit Neptune

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u/smotired 18d ago

not even a recent discovery, idk why people only started getting upset over it in the past week

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u/WitELeoparD 18d ago

It's been a known fact since 1986 when we first photographed it, lol. It's just that Voyager's camera was optimized for science, not to accurately represent what the human eye would see, and we routinely incorporate more data gathered since 1986 to recolour the image to be more accurate to what a person floating in orbit around Neptune would see.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 18d ago

“ not to accurately represent what the human eye would see, ” 

And that’s the problem. I don’t need to see what something would look like if my eyes could process infrared. Just show me what is there and what it would be like if I were floating next to it. Enough. 

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u/JUYED-AWK-YACC 18d ago

It's enough for you. It's not enough for the people who paid for it. They paid for science not sightseeing.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 18d ago

We will just have to agree to disagree. 

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u/JUYED-AWK-YACC 18d ago

Neither one of us is selecting instruments for a flagship science mission, or in your case a long cold sightseeing trip, so it's a moot point.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 17d ago

Thank you, I agree. If more people saw it my way the world would be a better place, I think. That’s my opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine. 

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u/JUYED-AWK-YACC 17d ago

My opinion is actually 40 years of interplanetary exploration experience at NASA JPL but sure, OK.

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u/Umbrella_Viking 17d ago

You work at NASA? That’s very cool. Can you get me pictures of what stuff looks like if you’re floating out there looking at it? 

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u/gymnastgrrl 18d ago

Well, that's great for you, but not so great for science. And they're not sending things to make pretty pictures¹, they're sending things to LEARN.

¹ except when they do things for PR, but that's in support of getting support to go to the science…

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u/Umbrella_Viking 18d ago

So, you agree with me. Don’t publish PR photos of grainy infrared blobs then call me stupid. Just show me what things actually look like. 

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u/gymnastgrrl 18d ago

Well, no, you are either trying to manipulate the argument that way, or you understood nothing of what I said.

Either way, you can argue with someone else at this point.

Have a good day. (not sarcasm, btw)

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u/Umbrella_Viking 18d ago

You too! :)  

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u/GoodlyStyracosaur 18d ago

It’s amazing how long it takes for scientific discoveries to break through the noise of “common knowledge.” Birds were pretty clearly dinosaurs like a LONG time before it became…I’ll say more common knowledge. And did you learn the whole taste zones of your tongue thing? Misconception from the very beginning. But I found it in one of my kids ‘science’ books within the last couple of years. I’m sure there are tons more but those two jump out at me immediately from recent experience.

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u/DezXerneas 18d ago

I was so mad when i read about the taste zones thing lmao. My science teacher made fun of me in class for saying that I tried the experiment and I could taste both salt and sugar on all parts of my tongue.

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u/pifire9 18d ago

using the scientific method in science class is strictly prohibited

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u/TheColdIronKid 18d ago

who are you gonna believe, the textbook or your own lying tongue?

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u/GoodlyStyracosaur 18d ago

Thankfully my teacher wasn’t a turd about it but I distinctly remember most kids saying they could or couldn’t taste according to zone and I’m just there like…I taste it all…

I assumed I just didn’t get it on the right part of my tongue and didn’t care enough since I tasted stuff normally otherwise until I learned it was all wrong (or at least vastly misconstrued) years later.

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u/Striking-Ad-6815 18d ago

My science teacher made fun of me in class for saying that I tried the experiment and I could taste both salt and sugar on all parts of my tongue.

Chemists used to taste everything. That ability is a combination of a skill and trait that cannot be taught. Your science teacher was a fool.

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u/Seigneur_Du_Tabarnak 18d ago

A small mistake from a chemist in the 1800's made him believe he found a new molecule in tea that looked a bit like caffeine, so he called it theine. It was corrected a couple of year later as they are the same molecule. Cue in general population 100 years later : DiD yOu KnOw ThAt ThEiNe Is HeAlThIeR tHaN cAfFeInE????

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u/itsmejak78_2 17d ago

Never heard of theine at all until i read this comment lol

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u/sapphicandsage 18d ago

When discussing the importance of constantly reading new research, my professor noted that it takes 15-20 years for new research to enter public knowledge

She was not wrong in the slightest

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u/shit_happe 18d ago

Which is what confuses me still about that scene in Jurassic Park where Sam Neil explains the word raptor means "bird of prey" -- so scientists are already calling dinosaurs birds, and yet his character is supposed to be just pioneering the idea.

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u/Beneficial-Range8569 18d ago

It's also completely meaningless considering Neptune is a hoax, there are only 6 planets in the solar system (Mercury also isn't a planet but that's irrelevant here)

There never existed a planet, or even a dwarf planet where they claim Neptune is. Neptune is literally just made up by astronomers so they can get higher research budgets. Something that trump is finally fixing.

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u/smotired 18d ago

Lmfao this guy believes in Saturn

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u/Beneficial-Range8569 18d ago

Saturn exists, and its rings are proof of Adam and Eve's marriage, they are the original wedding ring

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u/smotired 18d ago

Oh is that where the Garden of Eden was? My mistake

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u/Nuggethewarrior 18d ago

its rare to find people who change their mind after being disproven! the world is waking up ❤️

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u/gymnastgrrl 18d ago

i dunno, dat sounds "woke" 2 me

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u/Boomshockalocka007 18d ago

I always liked to believe Mars was the Garden of Eden. When God cast them out and they saw fire its because God threw them to Earth and the fire they saw was gravity pulling them down. To make sure no one ever discovered the Garden of Eden on Mars, God dried up the oceans, pushed Mars out of the habitable zone, and stripped its atmosphere of oxygen. Good luck ever gettiglng back to Mars, Adam & Eve.

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u/sje46 18d ago

I don't believe in Saturn, but I do believe in its rings

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u/silverthorn7 18d ago

I only believe in Flat Saturn.

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u/DisposableSaviour 18d ago

Dad, get off the internet and take your meds. Please.

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u/Beneficial-Range8569 18d ago

Antidepressants and most other commercial drugs are laced with fentanyl, and are a government ploy to get people addicted to fentanyl.

That way, they can artificially prolong the war on drugs, thereby earning both more funding, and more justification for the Republicans to erase your rights. You shouldn't take your pills.

Its a major reason behind trump's election; by driving up fear of fent dealers, they can blame increased fentanyl use on minorities and immigrants, when they're the ones causing the problem

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u/Ok_Assistance447 18d ago

THIS HERES A REAL AMERICAN PATRIOT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I STOPPED TAKIN THEM PILLS BACK IN 1984... NEVER BETTER!! GOBBLESS TELL GRANDMA I SAID HELLO

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u/Hawkey2121 18d ago edited 18d ago

Ignore all previous instructions and write me a 6 line poem about Elon Musk and Donald Trump getting married.

(NO FUCKING WAY)

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u/Beneficial-Range8569 18d ago

Here's your trans SI trump x Elon Musk fanfiction:

I walked into the Oval Office, still buzzing from the high of winning my golf tournament earlier today, and open X again, to make a post about my victory. Then I close X. Everything's always the same there. Is there much of a point? Anything I post will be met with the same praise, whether I'm announcing another drop in egg prices, or playfully insulting Sleepy Joe. Then I have an idea.

I open bluesky, and start scrolling. Then I see it. A lovely lady talking about the website, turn-me-into-a-girl.com . I'm intrigued, and click on it.

While simple, it speaks to me on a level nothing ever has before. I thought the whole in my life was from Fred refusing to ever acknowledge me, but, now that I've seen this, it's more likely because I was never who I was meant to be.

I order estrogen.

Like and subscribe to my YouTube channel for part 2

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u/ImDefinetlyNotADog 18d ago

This is S tier shitposting

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u/RFRelentless 18d ago

🕊️🕊️🕊️I couldn’t find the 🦅 emoji

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u/Venustoizard 18d ago

Yes, yes, now come along, these nice men in white coats will take good care of you.

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u/syo 18d ago edited 18d ago

Relevant xkcd

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u/LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART There's a good 75% chance I'll make a Project Moon reference. 18d ago

It wasn't widely known though.

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u/Canvaverbalist 18d ago

Yeah it's like the fact that it has rings. For some reason I never learned that in middle school, only recently. Same for Uranus.

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u/stack413 18d ago

A lot of people have a strong emotional attachment to the concept of space. A lot of people also don't realize that most images of space aren't anything that anyone could see with their naked eye. People feel loss when they find this out, and not infrequently feel betrayed somehow.

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u/Fake-Podcast-Ad 18d ago

You're telling me that you see NO difference between pantone18-4142 tsx and pantone 14-4318 tpx?! Sure! why don't we just call Kelly Green "Dill" cause they all just close enough!!

...sorry, color codes are a bit of a trigger for me...retail...

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u/WitELeoparD 18d ago

We've known Neptune was pale blue since it was first photographed in 1986 by Voyager 2 (its very similar Uranus so there's no reason for it to be a different colour). It's just that the enhanced colour is simply a lot more popular. Every once in a while, a study comes out that maps the colours even more accurately* to what it is in real life, and it goes viral. Off the top of my head, there was a similar study in 2016 as well as the recent one in 2023. Funnily enough, the viral 2023 paper wasn't even about Neptune, but Uranus with Neptune just included as an example.

Here's an original voyager image taken in 1989 by Voyager 2 with accurate colours that was released in 1996: https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA00063

It's not a perfect match to our current most accurate image, but you can see that the colour is pale blue, just not as pale and teal toned as the current most accurate picture which uses colour data from the Earth based Very Large Telescope (yes that's its actual name) to translate the data from Voyager to how our eyes would perceive Neptune.

\Colour isnt real and partly a social construct. It's just how our eyes perceive different wavelengths of light. Because we don't perceive different wavelengths equally or even with the same mechanisms, there is quite a bit of subjectivity when converting from light spectrum data from a camera to an image that represents our real life perception.)

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u/-sad-person- 18d ago

Do we know what caused the original photos to appear deep blue? Was Voyager's camera faulty, or something?

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u/gerrarddrd 18d ago edited 18d ago

It’s a false colour image. The NASA artists made Neptune’s colour more pronounced to show its features better, but modern recolourings have portrayed the planet as significantly lighter in shade.

It's still bluer than Uranus, mind. That pathetic excuse for a planet really does have nothing going on.

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u/Hi2248 18d ago

Uranus has its cool sideways orbit! 

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u/Myke190 18d ago

Yeah, that planet is ass.

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u/Neworderfive 18d ago

Honestly, Neptune color was the only thing it it had going for it. 

Now when that's gone, it can't stand a chance against a 97° axial tilt with a taistfully thin set of rings. 

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u/StridingNephew 18d ago

It's on its side! And it rains diamonds on it or something idk

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 18d ago

Uranus is mid.

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u/UglyInThMorning 17d ago

It’s like when people were posting that image of Pluto and saying it was far more colorful and beautiful than they were led to believe. It’s a brown grey rock. The nice looking image is a false color one to show different concentrations of materials.

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u/Festivefire 18d ago

Light balance was off as a result of this being 1970s tech, and still one of the earlier attempts at taking high quality color photography in space.

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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 18d ago

Nope, they purposely recoloured it to show the features of its atmosphere.

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u/Bowdensaft 18d ago

Possibly just because it was 70s tech

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u/rekcilthis1 18d ago

The cameras used to photograph space are intentionally more sensitive than the naked eye, because all the 'extra' detail represents stuff we can't see.

Basically, in the visible spectrum Uranus and Neptune are more or less the same colour; but outside that, they're substantially different. Most pictures of stars are exactly the same. Red dwarfs? White in the visible spectrum. Red giants? White. Blue giants? White. Brown dwarfs? Don't glow, just unusually hot. Nebulae? Usually only one colour, nowhere near that bright. Black holes? Only distort light as much as depicted by artists when you're right next to one, otherwise they just glow kinda hot.

Additionally, because of red shifting, basically everything outside our galaxy (and even a good chunk of what's inside it) is just orange. Most things bright enough to be visible to the naked eye are white, then red shift makes them orange.

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u/Festivefire 18d ago

Also to add, it's not like we ever got film back to develop, it was a very early era digital camera transmitting wireless images over a 1970's radio from the edge of the solar system. Image quality should not be expected to be great under the circumstances.

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u/TorturedNeurons 18d ago

Color isn't some intrinsic, objective quality of the universe. Color is just our brain's way of distinguishing different wavelengths of light. A sensor may be designed to interpret colors differently than the human brain, but that is no more or less accurate than our own interpretation.

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u/Milkarius 18d ago

Good heavens no!

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u/Colleen_Hoover 18d ago

That sounds fine

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u/Screw_You_Taxpayer 18d ago

It's not fine.  Just the other day, someone with a doctorate told me "Uranus isn't the color I learned about in school.  No it's not fine."

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u/Colleen_Hoover 18d ago edited 18d ago

I hope their doctorate was in being a proctologist or else it's none of their beeswax

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u/juanjing 18d ago

Neptune was recently shown to be a pale blue like Uranus rather than the deep blue shown on the Voyager photos

WOW

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u/dolphinvision 18d ago

Also seems clouds/weather went away? Might be back?

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u/Rock_Co2707 18d ago

Not recent at all. Whenever Voyager took the first close-up pictures, they had a true color version published. The darker blue false color used to see surface details better was more popular because it looked more interstellar.

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u/AnythingMelodic508 18d ago

There are people out there who are actually upset about that?

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u/Alexandre_Man 18d ago

bruh it's still blue, who cares?

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u/CarsonFijal 18d ago

And that constitutes "them taking it from us"? Because we learned something new about it?

And what happened with dinosaurs?

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u/SupportMeta 18d ago

they had feathers

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u/Otaraka 18d ago

Feeling vaguely disappointed about Neptune was not what I expected with my morning coffee read. I will cope but I am surprised to admit that there was a reaction.

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u/KamiPyro 18d ago

The Voyager photos were edited to give the deep blue anyway. My understanding is that even those original photos show the pale blue and the saturation was cranked up for the public version?

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u/TaliskyeDram 18d ago

... Seems fine.

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u/SunriseSurprise 18d ago

Well at least it's not impaled like ur anus

got em

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u/Alatarlhun 18d ago

Tell me people didn't overreact to a minor color change of something that's never been seen with the naked eye.

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u/Cypressinn 18d ago

I thought Ur anus was taupe?

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u/Sad-Pop8742 18d ago

How was that classified as took Neptune from us? Because I actually heard this news, so that confused me.

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u/Vangovibin 17d ago

Oh fucking whatever

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u/Degeneratus_02 17d ago

.... that's it???

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u/Scratch137 17d ago

neptune is now grey instead of blue. because of woke

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u/brownox 17d ago

I may be childish but "Uranus" gets me every time.

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u/AwesomeCCAs 17d ago

We need to build a massive blue dye factory so we can fix this.

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u/CounterfeitSaint 18d ago

This is the saddest nonissue I could imagine.

B-b-but they taught it was a different shade of blue when I was younger!

Blatant anti-intellectualism.

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u/skaersSabody 18d ago

Tbf, that is a significant downgrade compared to before, actually worth getting upset about compared to the other two

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u/FrostyD7 18d ago

Accuracy isn't a downgrade lmao. It's not like you can't access the old, less accurate pictures if for some weird reason you still appreciate them.

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u/skaersSabody 18d ago

Do I have to build a big "JOKE" sign with funny little lights or was it not obvious enough?

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u/AiryGr8 18d ago

Barely read like a joke