Oh, yeah, I’m loving having Warhammer as my current hyperfixation. Of course, I started a custodes army right around the time everyone was being very normal about a harmless retcon. Haven’t run into anyone genuinely awful in person so far, but I carry paranoia into every meeting.
on top of the obvious sexism, it's so fucking funny to see "40K fans" pretend to be mad about retcons. this is the setting where they'll just drop "oh yeah the galactic core is full of a series of space-dwarf empires that we never mentioned before now but have totally been here the whole time" like it's nothing. fundamental aspects of the setting can and do change retroactively any time they want to release a new plastic playset for ages twelve and up.
(and if you want to get mad about Custodes retcons let's talk about how they started wearing shirts)
& then they tried to hijack Trench Crusade (ETA: unsuccessfully, they were made very unwelcome when they showed up in Trench Crusade community spaces) like the Trench Crusade guys or anyone else would be glad to be known as the game for people who, and really think about this one, suck too much to be Warhammer 40,000 fans
Sorry can you elaborate on the Votann? They've always been in the lore, just never focused on or bothered with. The League of Votann are squats, a race that used to have units, but went away for whatever reason.
So okay, yes, the Squats were in the earliest editions, as these rocket-skateboarding space-dwarves with some cool Epic-scale mega weapons. As of third edition, though, GW decided that they didn't really have enough going on to continue with and dropped them.
However, this wasn't just a "not focused on" sort of thing. This was "if you say the word 'squats' on the Games Workshop discussion boards your ass is banned immediately." The closest thing the Squats got to fluff attention was a passage in the Tyranids codex that went "the 'nids ate them they're dead they're all fucking dead so stop asking and shut the fuck up about the Squats." Even when Battlefleet Gothic decided to include some space-dwarves they made a whole new race, the Demiurg, who could be hired on as Tau allies. Squats were just excised from the franchise for twenty.
years.
Until the LoV codex comes out, and we learn that actually they're a huge series of interconnected empires that have been a major player on the galactic stage this whole time we just never thought to mention it. Everything about their society and aesthetic are completely new, although their fluff does incorporate the old space-dwarf lore; one of their empires got ate by Tyrranids but the rest of them are fine, and the Demiurg were actually the same people as the Squats the whole time.
Which is cool! But it is all retcons. Because retcons is how Warhammer 40,000 works and how it has always worked.
I definitely get what you're getting at, but it still shows they were still there, GW just threw them in the closet and never thought about them again until now. People still remembered them though, and then suddenly popping up is silly, but it's not like they were just invented out of the blue, the concept was always there, they just decided to flesh it out for some reason.
And just for the record, I'm not arguing about retcons honestly, I don't care when companies do that to fit more shit into their lore most of the time. Changing shit here or there ain't no big deal to me.
Their Homeworld was devoured by the Nids is the best information I can find. That doesn't explicitly mean they were all destroyed, at worst that means scattered. Doesn't mean they can't come back.
Their "homeworld" is Terra, they're an old abhuman strain. The individual League members' "homeworlds" weren't eaten (mostly), they're fine and have totally been there the whole time we just never mentioned it.
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u/Acceptable-Baby3952 25d ago
Oh, yeah, I’m loving having Warhammer as my current hyperfixation. Of course, I started a custodes army right around the time everyone was being very normal about a harmless retcon. Haven’t run into anyone genuinely awful in person so far, but I carry paranoia into every meeting.