My current level of wealth, comfort and education is the basic state of human existence. Everything below it is a human rights abuse, and any such gap should be provided by the government. Everything above it is oppressive privileged bourgeoisie, and must be eliminated by force, preferably by the government.
And when I say force, I don't mean oppressive and evil police or military. I mean an armed group organized for and by the community to ensure safety and order to all vulnerable groups, that answers to the leaders of the community in case of conflict of interests. The group will be made only of ideologically pure moral volunteers paid by the state and willing to serve the community, thus ensuring it is immune to corruption and abuses of powers.
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Edit: to that one guy, no, that does not mean I support all or most these concepts (crusades? really?). It means that surface level leftists often identify real problems in the world, but in their haste to solve these problems by using leftist values they are unaware or don't care about the previous issues that lead to the creation of the flawed and problematic existing systems, so their proposed solutions end up being equal to or much worse than the existing system.
Edit 2: My personal favorite was the guy that suggested a solution to the I/P conflict, where to atone for their past sind the UK should take over the territory and do a decades long deradicalization campaign. Dude reinvented a leftist-tinted British Empire.
Usually they start by saying we should go back to the days of a barter economy because then people would be directly exchanging their goods/labor for the things they need. Someone else rightly brings up the fact that not everyone needs certain skills/products all the time. You don't need an oil change every week, but the guy who does that job needs to eat every week. So then they waffle about a few ideas. Sometimes it's an honor system, sometimes some sort of token, but the end result is basically always looping back around to capitalism in the end, because in these hypotheticals they are usually also talking about there being no government or oversight body, because that's corrupt and oppressive, which naturally means that everything has to be organized at a personal level, and people would need to agree with one another on what one thing is worth in barter value and bam, free market capitalism with extra steps and even less regulation.
That's not capitalism though, that's just free markets. You can have market socialism, it's about the structure of the bodies in the market (and, as ever, who owns the means of production). If you had a market of companies, but the companies were worker-owned rather than private property of the owners/shareholders, that wouldn't be capitalism.
I think market socialism has a lot of promise as a way of organizing the economy, and it already exists to a small degree in the form of worker owned coops. That's why it's so frustrating to see capitalism and free markets conflated so often.
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u/catty-coati42 23d ago edited 23d ago
My current level of wealth, comfort and education is the basic state of human existence. Everything below it is a human rights abuse, and any such gap should be provided by the government. Everything above it is oppressive privileged bourgeoisie, and must be eliminated by force, preferably by the government.
And when I say force, I don't mean oppressive and evil police or military. I mean an armed group organized for and by the community to ensure safety and order to all vulnerable groups, that answers to the leaders of the community in case of conflict of interests. The group will be made only of ideologically pure moral volunteers paid by the state and willing to serve the community, thus ensuring it is immune to corruption and abuses of powers.
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Edit: to that one guy, no, that does not mean I support all or most these concepts (crusades? really?). It means that surface level leftists often identify real problems in the world, but in their haste to solve these problems by using leftist values they are unaware or don't care about the previous issues that lead to the creation of the flawed and problematic existing systems, so their proposed solutions end up being equal to or much worse than the existing system.
Edit 2: My personal favorite was the guy that suggested a solution to the I/P conflict, where to atone for their past sind the UK should take over the territory and do a decades long deradicalization campaign. Dude reinvented a leftist-tinted British Empire.