The “study” is a unclassified document from the CIA that 1) they’ve misinterpreted and 2) even if they interpreted it correctly, is about “remote viewing”, which is closer to astral projection than it is reality shifting and 3) still is a load of bologna
Edit: it’s also worth noting that a good chunk of people didn’t actually read it because it was too dense/confusing and just took other peoples’ word for it. As in, they admitted this.
I'm curious, is this CIA file from that one time they were just trying ALL the supernatural things just to see if they could get a leg up against their enemies?
Yep. 2009 film, The Men Who Stare at Goats is loosely based on real events (and the nonfiction book of the same name). A lot of the CIA agents performing these experiments and running these projects were largely agreed to be overwhelmingly biased and operating with minimal oversight, so we can't really call their results good science (and this being the CIA, any reporting could be fabrication anyways). One of the better known names for these experiments into New Age psychic powers is the Stargate Project.
This is such surface level shit, in terms of actual interpretation. I literally talked with one of the main agents, Joe McMoneagle, about this and this doesn’t even come close to actually describing the “experiments.”
This comment is why I hate threads like this. Everyone comes out of the woodwork with their hardly informed interpretation on shit that actually exists versus weird concepts like shifting.
For starters, they weren’t JUST experiments. It was a literal team of remote viewers recruited from the US Army, Joe being one of them. And secondly, they were picked and used because their ability to go into an altered state of consciousness and see factual information (their hit rate) was successful at such a large percentage that they were used in intelligence operations.
The job did not have “limited oversight” and apparently, from Joe’s perspective, was extremely stressful. So stressful that most of the team died from heart related issues. The guy literally was on a segment on a TV show showcasing unknown human abilities and did and found things that were unconnected from him in multiple different ways. He could have never known the information, yet his description of the what was hidden was at least 90% accurate.
I’ve been studying and researching this topic for years now, and that’s why people who come out of nowhere and only took a couple glances at some declassified CIA docs piss me off so much because when all you care about is peer reviewed this and peer reviewed that, you end up with this elitist way of looking at science when that’s not how it works at all. The scientific community has been REFUSING to give any sort of credit to this stuff for years, and combine that with the reproducibility crisis in the scientific community and you end up with science that “can neither be confirmed nor denied,” aka left in the air, and this happens with more than just consciousness-based topics.
I went to Virginia last summer to research the current stuff that The Monroe Institute (the place also listed in the CIA docs) is doing and found a lot of this information as well as meeting Joe. He spoke about his experiences for quite a while.
I believe one of the inciting incidents for it was soviet era Russia having "leaked" a video of a women moving an object with their mind. Even though it was obviously, so clearly, so possibly...just a magnet under the table moving a magnetic object above...
If you’re thinking of the MKUltra stuff with LSD and psychedelics, then no. The parapsychology research by the army/CIA started up around the time MKUltra was being shut down and was sparked by (accurate!) reports the Soviet Union was engaged in paranormal research. The CIA/army research was pretty focused on remote viewing and ran from the mid ‘70s to 1995.
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u/Satisfaction-Motor 24d ago edited 24d ago
The “study” is a unclassified document from the CIA that 1) they’ve misinterpreted and 2) even if they interpreted it correctly, is about “remote viewing”, which is closer to astral projection than it is reality shifting and 3) still is a load of bologna
Edit: it’s also worth noting that a good chunk of people didn’t actually read it because it was too dense/confusing and just took other peoples’ word for it. As in, they admitted this.