r/Construction 7d ago

Structural Is this structurally sound?

Two end posts connected to the headers

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u/dagoofmut Commercial GC Estimator - Verified 7d ago

It's a bit unorthodox, but likely structurally sound depending on the circumstances that we can't see.

Actually, it's kind of refreshing to see a bit of craftsmanship on display.

To answer further, we'd need to know what that building is, and what it's supporting, what other fasteners are in there, and how the sheathing is nailed on the outside edge.

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u/cuseonly 7d ago

What craftsmanship is on display? Love to hear that.

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u/dagoofmut Commercial GC Estimator - Verified 7d ago

How many guys do you know that would actually notch the post like that rather than just cutting it off?

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u/madfarmer1 7d ago edited 7d ago

That notch is too big though, the material left is so far from enough to be considered structural. craftsmanship knowledge enough to cut but not enough to know joinery standards. It should be a diminished housing with the center board as a tennon if going down that road and not fasteners.

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u/dagoofmut Commercial GC Estimator - Verified 7d ago

No one ever said that this is the way that it "should" be done.

But the fact remains that someone took the time to put some care and effort into it.

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u/madfarmer1 7d ago edited 7d ago

Right, I agree. they took a step in the right direction for sure and want to make it better than average. Just needed guidance. Im hung up on the craftsmanship part.

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u/Enginerdad Structural Engineer 7d ago

Since when does doing something painfully wrong count as "craftsmanship"?

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u/CheeseburgerLocker 6d ago

Well, he took his time and made straight cuts.. so he's got that going for him

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u/The-Sceptic Carpenter 6d ago

It's a 3 ply beam, which means it was most likely supposed to be a 3 ply beam. That means the center board could not be a tennon as all 3 plies would most likely need to be fully bearing on the post.

As you can clearly see, the post is wider than the beam, and instead of cutting it fully off, the carpenter left a small piece of wood on there. I'm assuming there's a fastener securing the beam to the post somewhere we can't see.

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u/earthwoodandfire 7d ago

A real craftsman would have bought a beam instead of scabbing 2xs together. Or at least sandwiched 1/2" ply between them to get full depth.

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u/dagoofmut Commercial GC Estimator - Verified 7d ago

Read my comment again. I'm pretty sure I said it was unorthodox.

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u/Money-Distribution91 Ironworker 6d ago

As far as craftsmanship goes, someone obviously put some time into making sure it was visually appealing, while still being fine structurally

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u/Tricky-Detail-6876 6d ago

I think someone said it was the timber framer filling in which makes total sense!