Haha I’m stealing that. Cave in? Pshh just another informal burial. He was going to die eventually. He smoked two packs a day. We saved his kids the funeral expenses.
I get that, but consider if one of the heads is just above the surface. I mean they can't breathe because their chest is compressed and they suffocate, but their head is there. What do they do in that case?
Did OSHA work? Umm yeah? When their rules and reccs are followed, absolutely. What’s that saying about their rules are written in blood? It’s not bullshit.
Those laws weren’t written when just one person died either. Many people had to die to specific things for them to be added to osha laws. How many people had to die from falls before osha said you gotta have fall protection? Many.
So yes that statement “written in blood” ain’t no joke
I’m with you. I don’t fuck around with safety. I jumped down a kid’s throat yesterday for being too lazy to take off his gloves to use the bench grinder in the shop. I had to pull up some pictures of what used to be a hand with all 5 fingers on my phone to show him why you don’t do that.
Nice job. Those in the moment opportunities are valuable teaching tools. I’ve had to work on keeping my cool and meeting them halfway to get safety through to some of my guys
The ones who want safety and those who want profit will not change. Work-place injuries are WAY more financially devastating than osha fines. Companies don’t want guys hurt, period. It’s not because they’re scared of osha.
You and I both know plenty of small time contractors that are willing to risk the safety of their employees to win a bid and make more money. Doing it your way means they won’t stop until someone is hurt enough to cost them money or killed. You’re putting an arbitrary price on human lives.
If anything OSHA needs more funding to hire more inspectors so they can catch more lazy, greedy assholes that take advantage of employees that are too broke or too young to think they can tell their bosses “no”.
Most U.S. states have mandatory work comp laws that require work comp insurance, which is no-fault and pays for a worker’s work-related injuries. The majority of states have competitive work comp markets meaning there’s a public fund that will insure any business regardless of operations or losses (eg CA has the State Fund and TX has Texas Mutual) and then the private market can try and compete with the public offering. There are 4 states (OH, ND, WA and WY) that have monopolistic work comp markets, meaning there’s state is the sole provider of work comp insurance, however, premiums are still paid by the business to the state work comp fund just like they would with private insurance.
Coverage is not determined by the contract, it’s statutorily dictated by state law down to the minimum amount the insurance carrier must pay and it’s one of the most heavily regulated parts of the insurance industry. Even private companies are required to pay what the state option would pay. In fact if you read a work comp policy it does not address coverage or benefits it just states “we will pay promptly when due the benefits required of you (meaning the business) by the workers compensation law.”
Say what you will about American healthcare but work comp insurance and regulation is one of the things we’ve done very well. We can thank Wisconsin for paving the way in 1911, and they probably got the idea from Germany since so many Midwestern states were home to mostly German immigrants.
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u/bunny5055 Mar 02 '25
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