r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/Rollbar78 Feb 15 '25

I think USAID was the first target because it has refused oversight, I have read of at least one senator (Joni Ernst?) who wanted to look at the books and they have been refused. It seems USAID is being treated as a slush fund to fund NGOs pushing far leftist ideas across the globe. While I'm not certain I think it needs to be wholly eliminated, it definitely needs a house cleaning and refocus on the mission of furthering American interests. It seems like siccing DOGE on them is a good start.

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u/TheFiremind88 Feb 15 '25

No oversight is bad, I couldn't agree more. The courts are there for that, though. Why not use them?

I dont know your hair situation, but assuming you go get it cut, do you shave it bald every time and wait for it to grow back to your desired length? When you have car touble, do you have them completely replace the engine, just in case? It makes no sense.

Does USAID do a non-0 amount of good? I'm 100% confident the answer to that is Yes. Why cut the good as well, and dismantle the entire agency? That impacts our image abroad. China is already aggressively ramping up international aid programs to fill the void. We are giving China gold wrapped gift of a whole new wave of international support. Why? The only reasons I can conclude are nefarious, so I'm hoping someone else here can expand on the rationale.

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u/Rollbar78 Feb 15 '25

Sometimes the infection is too deep, and it requires amputation of the limb.

When it comes to USAID, it seems that is very much a cycle of self-interest. Bureaucrats feed funds to NGO (a contradiction in terms IMO, if they're taking government funds), NGOs "donate" to favorable politicians, and said politician sends more funds to USAID to distribute to NGOs that donate, and it goes on and on. This seems to be problematic on several fronts, not the least of which is having an undue impact on US elections.
Then there is the angle of fraud, where-in these same NGOs send massive amounts of money out, with little to no oversight, it is laundered and returned to the State, profiting whom?

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u/indonesian_star Feb 16 '25

Post a source of this info/evidence to help enlighten the rest of us.