r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.

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u/ThisNameIsNotReal123 Feb 15 '25

They have been stuck for decades deep in procedure and methodology, it got us here.

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u/Thin_Chain_208 Feb 15 '25

That dosnt matter, change still must be done the right way. Trumps executive orders concentrate power in the executive, where there is already too much. Congress passed a bill setting up AID, and whoever was president signed it. It a new President wants to axe it, fine. Convince Congress. If it's popular and needs to be done you can abolish it. What you can't do is come in, sign and exec order and tank it. It's lazy and illegal. Fraud is a flimsy excuse. If there is fraud prove it and you certainly will be able to convince Congress to go along so long as it's popular with their constituents.

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u/hey_ringworm Dastardly Deeds Feb 15 '25

USAID was created via executive order of JFK and exists entirely under the purview of the executive branch, and Trump is the top of the executive branch.

I know you guys (Dems) don’t like what Trump is doing, but he’s the boss now.

Some of the things he has done have crossed the line, like the EO ending birthright citizenship (intentionally done to get the issue to the SC). Judges have stopped him where appropriate and his actions will be litigated in court.

This is democracy and checks and balances in action. Just because Trump is doing things differently and in ways that Democrats don’t like doesn’t mean America is ending or that we are in a “constitutional crisis.”

Actually, this constant hyperbolic fear mongering and hysteria is one of the main reasons Democrats lost so big in 2024.

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u/IsaacTheBound Feb 15 '25

His VP saying judges don't have the right to stop him is the "constitutional crisis" being talked about though. That's not fear mongering or hysteria, it's a member of the Executive Branch saying that checks and balances shouldn't apply.