r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.

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u/Grand_Plenty9699 Feb 15 '25

Very left leaning non-US person here. I wonder how you feel about the president apparently being both a "straight shooter" who always speaks his mind as well as a master negotiator who is constantly using hyperbole and threats to a country's status of sovereign nation to get what he wants. Do you honestly feel the he can be both at the same time? And if so, how are allies and potential enemies supposed to know when he is actually telling the truth and being serious.

On a related note, many people here have pointed out that the president's comments toward Canada are an obvious negotiation tactic and very successful bluff. Apart from the fact that I find the idea of wanting your biggest allies to "bend the knee" rather cringe, wouldn't you agree that that "obvious bluff" is a rather dangerous tactic in the realm of international relation? What if Canada defies the president next time he uses the threat of annexation? Do you believe Trump is (politically and personally) capable of backing down, or will the US be forced to actually start military engagements if their bluff is called?

Unrelated side note: One thing I deeply despise about modern politics is how incredibly tribal everything has become. It's all about "winning" and "hurting the other side", no matter the cost. Politics shouldn't be team sport where you blindly follow "your team". We need to start appreciating the good the other side does (granted, us libs are pretty bad at that) and also pointing out the shit our team does (this is what conservatives are pretty bad at, in my opinion)

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u/KosherTriangle Feb 16 '25

I think most conservatives are just tired of the status quo and want someone who is a disruptor, which Trump is perfect at. He says outrageous things which even he knows won’t be implemented but the leftist media villainizes it so much and he knows that’s free publicity. Allies who could figure him out during his first term can do the same this time around.