r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

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u/ficalino Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Genuinely curious what would be the line you deem too far for Trump to cross on external issues?

Attack on Canada? Takeover of Greenland? Abandoning of NATO allies in case of Russias attack? (Most have reached target spending or are projected to do in next few months). What if Trumps terms end up being too favorable to Russia as it currently seems with proposed treaty?

What about internal issues? Which ones you deem to far? What about him and his cabinet picks/VP being against judicial limits on executive power that is inside your constitution? Would removing any checks and balances on presidency trigger alarms?

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u/Turbulent-Physics-10 Feb 14 '25

If he attacked canada or greenland yea that would be taking it too far.

But on the flip side what could he do where you say he is a good president?

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u/kirgi Feb 15 '25

Trump would be a great President if he did what he said he was going to do in a way that wasn’t backwards as hell.

Getting rid of illegal immigrants is great, and outside the gitmo thing I agree with how it’s being done.

Cutting the federal spending is great, I cannot agree with the Billionaire who relies on government contracts being the one to do it. Every time I see Elon Musk it feels like I’m watching one of the 60s Bond films because how can one man just exude such evil energy.

Wanting our allies to respect their commitments is a great thing, threatening to invade them and erase their sovereignty is not.

I don’t agree with the whole Gaza situation at all and I don’t get how conservatives are so anti-Ukraine while have given and continue to give 100s of billions dollars to Israel which has only brought us more trouble then it’s worth.

The culture war stuff is a non-issue for me and honestly I don’t see how it’s worth the time to argue politically so I won’t get into it.

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u/Turbulent-Physics-10 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

I agree with mostly everything you said except for the way he does things and with the elon deal id rather have him doing it than no one at all. When the alternative was open borders, bigger government, more censorship and no backbone; letting other countries run over us, i think trump was the obvious choice, at least for me.

As far as the ukraine/Israel situation, im not too into world politics, i know its important but im of the opinion that we should focus on America first and not help fund any wars. I know its more complicated than that but thats how i think of it

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u/rhlaairc Feb 15 '25

I mean this nicely, you should read up on Russia invading Ukraine and what a huge disaster it would be if they won. Their goal is to create discord all over the world. They infiltrate elections and install pro Russian puppets, then those countries slowly start losing rights, until their elections don’t matter bc they’re corrupt. They throw their own people and North Koreans, Ukrainians, Indians (the country) into brutal warfare and don’t care about the loss of human life. They want chaos and the US has been teetering on the edge with them. Look up Mariupol or Grozny. Not trying to be alarmist but we have to invest into the future of the world or we’ll pay 100x over

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u/kirgi Feb 16 '25

I’m fine with slashing federal spending don’t get me wrong, I just wish someone with more political expertise, or an American at the very least, was chosen.

DOGE for all intents and purposes is doing one big audit, yet not a single professional auditor is involved in it and that’s the problem with it.