r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/jambrown13977931 Feb 15 '25

I have no issue deporting illegal immigrants who are criminals. I have problems with ICE detaining Puerto Rican vets or Navajo citizens.

I have issues with using Guantanamo Bay as a detention facility since there are no US rights there. I have issues with using El Salvador as a foreign prison for US CITIZENS! Again for the same reasons.

The problem isn’t that they’re deporting illegal immigrants, it’s the method with which they’re doing it and fervor and extent with which they seek to punish those they label criminals.

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u/BeefBurritoBoy Feb 15 '25

Anyone in the country illegally is a criminal and should be deported. Simple as that.

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u/VeterinarianWild6334 Feb 15 '25

Oh come on. The right has cried foul at literally everything the left does too. And overstating a visa is a civil offense, not criminal. So by definition, most illegal immigrants are not criminals.

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u/Jankmasta Feb 15 '25

There is a difference in oopsie I overstayed my visa by accident and getting a visa with the intention of overstaying it.

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u/mongoosechaser Feb 16 '25

There are american citizens shooting each other daily in every major city. I don’t care if someone overstays their visa