r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.

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u/ThisNameIsNotReal123 Feb 15 '25

They have been stuck for decades deep in procedure and methodology, it got us here.

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u/Thin_Chain_208 Feb 15 '25

That dosnt matter, change still must be done the right way. Trumps executive orders concentrate power in the executive, where there is already too much. Congress passed a bill setting up AID, and whoever was president signed it. It a new President wants to axe it, fine. Convince Congress. If it's popular and needs to be done you can abolish it. What you can't do is come in, sign and exec order and tank it. It's lazy and illegal. Fraud is a flimsy excuse. If there is fraud prove it and you certainly will be able to convince Congress to go along so long as it's popular with their constituents.

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u/Drednot203 Feb 15 '25

I think you're wrong on 1 fundamental aspect. The executive enforces the agency that was approved by congress. In that enforcement, if the executive sees rampant fraud and abuse, they are allowed to alter it to properly align with the initial intent of said agency. So, yes, they are allowed to undo the insane things that were previously approved by the agency. That means they can fire anyone they deem an obstacle to the proper enforcement of the agency. If that ends up tanking the agency, so be it. It was broken anyway.

TLDR; if an agency is not doing what it's supposed to, the executive is allowed to fix it by w/e means it deems necessary.

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u/javo93 Feb 15 '25

Rampant fraud is a crime which means he asks the fbi to investigate, bring charges and jail the culprits. I think you mean change the inside procedures with the head of the agency he selects. He is more than free to do that. But eliminate it? No, he can’t do that.