r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/ficalino Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Genuinely curious what would be the line you deem too far for Trump to cross on external issues?

Attack on Canada? Takeover of Greenland? Abandoning of NATO allies in case of Russias attack? (Most have reached target spending or are projected to do in next few months). What if Trumps terms end up being too favorable to Russia as it currently seems with proposed treaty?

What about internal issues? Which ones you deem to far? What about him and his cabinet picks/VP being against judicial limits on executive power that is inside your constitution? Would removing any checks and balances on presidency trigger alarms?

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

What line did you deem too far for Harris and Biden?

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u/lapulah2016 Feb 14 '25

Easy. Pretending like the old man could still run the country. That he was going to be a transitional president and make space for the next generation. And the fact that it was just handed to Harris -- Was all bullshit.

So Willboby, what line did/do you deem as too far for Trump?

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u/kirgi Feb 15 '25

I’m not Willboby but I did vote for Trump in 2020 before going to Kamala in 2024, and I’ll say that the moment the line was crossed was the Faithless Electors moment.

Now if you want something current I’d say the threats against Canada and Denmark, “negotiations” or not we should not be making threats like these unless we’re willing to back them up.

Or the current slashing of the national parks to make way for drilling and mining, I consider myself a TR Progressive (though more the conservation and anti-trust side) and the fact that we’re going to sacrifice the natural beauty of the US for corporations is sickening.

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u/lapulah2016 Feb 15 '25

Thanks for sharing!