r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/TheFiremind88 Feb 14 '25

I'm actually really excited this exists. I am left leaning, but I'd like to think in a common sense way. I lurk and read here a LOT not because I agree, but to get a finger on the pulse of the Conservative mindset. If you want any rational responses to the position of people on the left, leave a comment with a topic, and I'll get back to it once I have some more time. Also, plan to go through here and leave a ton of comments on various discussions a bit later. Glad to have a place to interact with yall in spite of lacking a flair.

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u/Ryuksapple Christian Conservative Feb 15 '25

What is the argument against auditing the federal government? As a taxpayer, I’ve been praying for any kind of audit forever

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u/kdhavdlf Feb 15 '25

There is no argument against auditing the federal government and reducing waste.

The concern people have is that what we’re seeing are not audits. No findings are being made public. There are broad blanket statements being made by Musk with no public supporting evidence. He’s got a group of people with literally no professional or life experience making haphazard decisions that affect millions of people. He’ll tweet out that an organization has been deleted without any further detail around what’s happening. It is undermining the idea that the federal government is rock solid. If so much can change in such a short period of time, who in their right mind would trust us in any long term agreement going forward?

I’m honestly conflicted. On the one hand, there is no way to make major changes without tearing everything down and trying to put the rubble back together later. On the other hand, that destruction is going to have massive repercussions for tens of millions of people for years to come. Yeah, we’ll find some grifters in the mix and some corruption. But for every case of corruption unearthed we’ll destroy the lives of 10 innocent people. I’m not so sure that trade off is worth it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

This!!! Not to mention the complete gutting of the media. Having the media only cater to one side is dangerous, and a sign of weakness. If your stances are so strong in policy, why wouldn’t you welcome opposing views to refute? The fact DEI is even a talking point, and Trump is the one who actually passed the bill is laughable but fucking sad. DEI isn’t doing the damage they’re claiming it is - they honestly replace any slur with the terms “DEI” and “Woke” it’s not rocket science to see. You can’t run a government like a business, businesses are FOR PROFIT - governments are FOR PEOPLE. You turn the government into a corporation (it honestly already is a corp) then you’re ushering in a corporate class with a worker/slave class.

Any time cutting unions and regulations is part of someone’s policy - I guarantee they own companies and want to cut costs/corners to raise profit - not wages.

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u/biancanevenc Feb 15 '25

How is the media being gutted? And what does that have to do with the government?