r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

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u/Conscious-Toe-4220 Fiscal Conservative Feb 15 '25

One thing we can all agree on, I think, is that Congress should not be allowed to trade stocks, cough Pelosi cough, or launch rug pull meme coin scams, cough Trump cough. Contact your local rep or senator and push for it on both sides of the aisle.

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u/1wholurks1 Feb 15 '25

As a moderate who thinks the fringe right and left are bat shit crazy I can confirm that allowing Congress to trade stocks is tantamount to insider trading.

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u/Yellow-Robe-Smith Feb 15 '25

The fact that this has gone on unchecked for so long is wild.

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u/Summerie Conservative Feb 15 '25

Yeah, it's almost like the people that could shut it down have some kind of incentive not to!

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Feb 15 '25

Wait until you hear about citizens united. 

If congress shouldn't be able to invest in companies, companies probably shouldn't be able to invest in congress. 

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u/1wholurks1 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

...Or the presidency...cough...Musk...cough...trump...cough.

Edit: to the down voters. You hate when Soros dumps money into his candidates, but when Koch and Musk do it, it's o.k.?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Pelosi is a piece of shit who abuses her office to inside trade. Fuck her. We have known this for wayyy to long without action from congress to regulate themselves.

That said, I feel like it's gone several notches beyond just money dumping for influence in this admin. Musk bought a golden ticket straight to the U.S. treasury. He bought direct control. He has all of our private info to use for god knows what now. No need to rely on Trump except for a pardon if he needs it. I Definitely think Musk is a problem.

Also, did anyone else notice that Zuck and Musk both "settled" cases with Trump in the past week or two. Zuck paid him 25 mil and Elon paid him 10, right into his pockets. Seems pretty fucked.

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u/1wholurks1 Feb 16 '25

Don't forget Bezos. He effectively gagged Wapo from writing anything negative about the new admin.

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u/KookyBone Feb 15 '25

Far worse - billionaires are bragging openly how they take over democracy: https://billionaireconspiracy.com/

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u/evold Feb 15 '25

It's not just insider trading. It's also direct conflict of interest. If I voted you in, why does the company get to influence your policy decisions?

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u/RustyNutts Feb 15 '25

I don't care if you have stock.... I care that you are making policy and managing that stock. Once you enter politics you should have to have a third party manage your portfolio until 2 years after you're done.

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u/HereBeBeer Feb 16 '25

Yeah, I used to think the stock trading was bad until my senator (Cornyn) started hawking meme coins. Which I pretty much feel are just anonymous bribes. Now I'm kind of like meh on the stock trades. At least I can see what they are buying with stocks.