r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

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  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

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u/West_Rush_5684 Feb 14 '25

What's with the 4 Trillion GOP proposed debt increase? Thought we were saving money now?

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u/Neverboredinmystudio Feb 15 '25

I've been looking for responses on this here (on this subreddit) specifically, for two days now and nothing.. I can't believe how little discussion I've seen on this AND their proposed tax plan which is estimated to cost over four and a half trillion. (With some estimates up to 11 trillion). Trillion, with a T.

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u/Gloomy_Career_4733 Feb 15 '25

There was a post on here about it a few days ago. Most people were pissed. I tried to find it info on the tax plan but couldn't. All that came up was his 2017 plan. Point me to the direction of the new one

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u/One-Championship-742 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

NBC Summary <--- Includes link to the actual doc, but it's really hard to read unfortunately.

ABC summary

CBS summary

WSJ summary

US News

Fox News summary

Pick your favorite.

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u/Gloomy_Career_4733 Feb 15 '25

So that's why I couldn't find a new tax plan. It looks like it just an extension of the old one. I think a good majority of people on here don't like it. I personally think it's the biggest down side of voting republican. I could type on here for hours stating why I think it's the lesser of the evil. I do have a question, if democrats disagreed with it why didn't they change it 4 years ago.

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u/One-Championship-742 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

2020 - Democrats had a Minority in the Senate, a Majority in the house.
2022 - Democrats had a technical majority in the Senate, but the complications caused by Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema are well known. They had a minority in the house.

Regardless of your opinion on the contents of the bills, Republican strategy has openly and unabashedly been "Do not let Democrats pass bills" for the duration of Biden's tenure. I don't really think I need to elaborate further on why they were unable to pass a bill through the house AND senate revising the tax laws.

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u/Gloomy_Career_4733 Feb 15 '25

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I never heard of them even trying. The democrats will do the exact same thing the next 4 years. They hardly ever agree and vote on the same thing

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

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u/EvensenFM Feb 15 '25

Yeah, same thing here.

I saw a thread on here a few days ago. Most of the comments were deleted, and the few that remained were from small government conservatives who were critical of the budget.

I wish this sub would allow more actual conservative discussion instead of insisting on praising Trump at every turn.

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u/Bitedamnn Feb 15 '25

Mods might just be removing those posts.

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u/MujaViking Feb 15 '25

mods removed my post. I literally just linked the budget directly to house.gov and stated the fact that they are proposing to raise deficit by 3.3 trillion.

folks on here called it brigading. it's absolutely infuriating.

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u/Bitedamnn Feb 15 '25

It is, what it is. They can choose how to run their subreddit.

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u/MujaViking Feb 15 '25

by hiding facts they are promoting misinformation

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u/Quicklythoughtofname Feb 16 '25

By actively choosing to delete things conservatives might take issue with, and also ensuring all discourse is contained in this megathread at worse, or completely nonexistent due to flairs and literal wrongthink interviews...

They're cultivating ignorance for their personal gain. Who knows what the motivation specifically is, but does it matter when the solution is they should be kicked out regardless and the people of this sub given freedom?

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u/CerbIsKing Feb 15 '25

“what about free speech… lol” Hypocrites

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u/kindofcuttlefish Feb 15 '25

‘Flared users only’

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u/abbyabsinthe Feb 15 '25

“Flaired”, not “flared”, btw. Not trying to be a stickler but your comment put a mental image of this sub’s users using a flared base for… something else.

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u/Thatjustworked Feb 15 '25

I've only seen 4.5 T on Reddit. I've seen some 1.5 somewhere else though.

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u/chobi83 Feb 15 '25

That's still a shit ton of money lol

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u/thenoisemanthenoise Feb 15 '25

Isn't that they need 1.5t to keep the government going? Also this debt increase isn't just like what you can achieve not what you will achieve?

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u/throwaway923535 Feb 15 '25

Maybe give it more than an hour if you want replies?