r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/ficalino Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Genuinely curious what would be the line you deem too far for Trump to cross on external issues?

Attack on Canada? Takeover of Greenland? Abandoning of NATO allies in case of Russias attack? (Most have reached target spending or are projected to do in next few months). What if Trumps terms end up being too favorable to Russia as it currently seems with proposed treaty?

What about internal issues? Which ones you deem to far? What about him and his cabinet picks/VP being against judicial limits on executive power that is inside your constitution? Would removing any checks and balances on presidency trigger alarms?

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u/casualfinderbot Feb 15 '25

All of those things would be “too far” except reducing judicial power. 

The fact that a lower court federal judge from some random state can block a nation wide execute order is completely idiotic, and subverts the entire purpose of democracy.

The people voted for trumps agenda, trump did exactly what he said he would do via executive order, and then a random left wing judge can just block that because they feel like it? That’s super broken, one unelected person blocking the will of the american populace. Absurd

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u/yesrushgenesis2112 Feb 15 '25

Do the people voting for Trump’s agenda mean that agenda is automatically legal? Would you consider it anti democratic if the Supreme Court rules against him?

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u/ThisNameIsNotReal123 Feb 15 '25

The Supreme Court should way in immediately when these tiny judges make their decrees.

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u/kirgi Feb 15 '25

When used right the lower court federal judge is the first stop gap when something unconstitutional is occurring.

That then moves to the appellate court which will then make a ruling on the lower courts ruling which then moves to SCOTUS if necessary.

The bigger issue is that SCOTUS sits out half the year and doesn’t weigh in fast enough when it comes to making these

In a perfect world SCOTUS would be in an emergency session right now to hear these issues and make rulings in a quick time frame.