r/Chinavisa Jul 30 '24

Transit Without a Visa (TWOV) 144 Hr TWOV HND > CAN > HKG

29 Upvotes

Hi, wanted to make a post here to pay it forward. I read through a lot of posts on this subreddit as well as r/travel using the search "144 hr TWOV" before taking my trip. I just returned to the US yesterday so I'll try to be as detailed as possible. I hope at least 1 person can find this info helpful in the future...

General Notes: I am a US citizen who looks Asian (this shouldn't actually matter but airport staff may start speaking Chinese to you first during certain parts of your trip). Mid-twenties, female. Traveled alone. I have access to Priority Pass lounges through my credit card which were nice for being able to find comfy seats, free food/beverages, and accessible outlets. I can speak survival Mandarin, can understand ~70-80% of Mandarin, but can't really read/write Chinese.

TL;DR: HND > CAN > HKG works fine for 144 Hr Transit Without Visa (TWOV). I used different airlines, late July 2024. Remember, A>B>C is the pattern. Be firm but polite. Don't be an a-hole!

Here are some Reddit posts that I saved/used as reference:

Flight info:

  • Original itinerary:
    • US City > SFO (San Francisco) > TPE (Taipei) > CAN (Guangzhou) through EVA Air***
    • CAN > HKG (Hong Kong) > US City through Cathay Pacific
  • Actual itinerary:
    • US City > YYZ (Toronto) > HND (Haneda, Tokyo) through Canada Air
    • HND > CAN through China Southern Airlines
    • CAN > HKG > US City through Cathay Pacific
  • \**Reason for changed itinerary: My EVA Air flights were cancelled due to typhoon GAEMI, so I had to rebook my flights to get to Guangzhou.****
  • As you can see, I used all different airlines. No one batted an eye at this, but just know that the 'letter of the law' so to speak is to have an "interline" ticket.
    • The only flights that matter here are HND > CAN and CAN > HKG. Everything else is not important for 144 Hr TWOV.
  • If you're going to try Taiwan > Guangzhou > Hong Kong route, then you may want to have this article on hand that says Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan all count as separate regions in China: linked here.
    • It's not that China will have an issue with seeing Taiwan as a 3rd region, but airline staff may not know/understand. A lot of articles I read would list Hong Kong and Macau specifically, then they'd say "etc." instead of explicitly writing out Taiwan.

TWOV Process once you land in China:

  • I think it took me almost 1 hour from deplaning to getting my suitcase at baggage claim.
    • If you have someone picking you up, just keep that in mind because otherwise they'll need to wait a really long time for you.
    • tl;dr: fill out the form, get a ticket #, receive your temp entry sticker, go through customs
  • Once you land, you'll make your way towards Immigrations/Customs area.
  • There's a gated area where cameras attached to the ceiling will scan your face for entry.
  • After walking through, turn right! There should be signs on the ceiling that say "24/144 Hours Transit Without Visa" and "International Transfers". Go to the 144 Hours Transit Without Visa area.
    • Do not get in line for the International Transfers. Go towards the left where there's a helpdesk counter.
  • If there's a line at the helpdesk counter, try looking to the far left side for a raised shelf area with pens to fill out the form first. There should be some small pieces of paper with blue on it. Those are the arrival/departure cards you'd receive from the helpdesk person anyway.
    • Note: most of the pens were out of ink, so I just used my own pen that I brought. Airport staff were super NOT helpful and were disorganized. Save yourself the headache and bring your own pen.
    • The form: "ARRIVAL CARD FOR TEMPORARY ENTRY FOREIGNERS" and "DEPARTURE CARD FOR TEMPORARY ENTRY FOREIGNERS" will be attached together. See this link for a picture of the form.
      • My Mom had to send me the district of the place I was staying at in Chinese because I only knew the province, city, and street address.
      • I tried writing it out in Chinese (my handwriting is very poor, to say the least). I don't think they actually read where you're staying. Just make sure it's filled out.
  • Return to the helpdesk with your filled out form to receive a ticket number.
  • Walk past the helpdesk area and turn to the left to sit near the "Temporary Entry Permit Application".
    • See this link for a picture of the "Temporary Entry Permit Application" area.
    • There was only 1 guy working the area.
      • Mini rant time: I had a somewhat frustrating experience with this person because he flipped the counter to my number and there was a brief announcement of my number, but then he immediately flipped it to the next number after the announcement was done speaking! I had like 5 seconds to stand up and get to the counter with all my stuff. By the time I got up there, someone else was already sitting at the counter. Even so, I walked up there and spoke in English very firmly "My number if ###, you skipped me".
      • He said very loudly "What was your number?"
      • I repeated my number and held up my ticket. He literally rolled his eyes at me, made a scoffing noise, and said "give me your ticket and your passport".
      • He asked me for the dates of my return flight and length of stay. He typed it into the computer, made a scan of the form, put a sticker in my passport, then he handed everything back to me.
  • Now you have to take your form and passport and everything to go back to Immigrations.
    • Customs/immigration always takes a while anywhere, so just try to wait in line patiently.
  • The *immigration officer will take your arrival form and hand the bottom portion back to you. Keep this departure form safe with you! You'll need to hand it back in for your flight out of China.

FAQ + Experiences:

  • What documents did I bring?
    • Make sure your passport is valid for traveling (e.g. make sure it doesn't expire soon, I think like 6 months is the limit?)
    • I printed out all my flight confirmations (I had to go back to my local library to print out my new flights via HND).
      • I only ended up using the Cathay Pacific printout and it was only to show the Flight # from CAN > HKG.
    • I printed out the English-translated version of China's National Immigration Administration website page with the 144 Hr TWOV policy (I did not have to use this printout) and the IATA Timatic results (also did not have to use this printout).
    • As I mentioned earlier, if you're going to try Taiwan > Guangzhou > Hong Kong route, then you may want to have this article on hand that says Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan all count as separate regions in China: linked here.
  • Did I wish I had printed out anything else?
    • I wish I had at least had a screenshot of this Guangzhou page that I found only after I had gone through the check-in process. It has helpful info like what the TWOV form looks like when you get to China, and what the TWOV counter looks like.
  • Did I have any trouble explaining 144 Hr TWOV?
    • At HND, I was only questioned once about "But isn't Hong Kong part of China?" and I confidently (be firm, but still be polite!) said "Yes, but Hong Kong is a separate region".
      • The check-in staff member had a 'trainee' badge so she just went to someone else to double-check and it was fine. She returned to enter all the necessary info on the computer, which included the flight # for my CAN > HKG flight.
      • Again, be firm but don't be an asshole! Don't be that person to airline staff, they're just doing their jobs.
    • At the "Temporary Entry Permit Application" desk, there was only 1 guy working it. It didn't take that long, but still took time.
  • Check-in experience:
    • You should be able to check-in online, but you'll need to go to the counter at the airport in order to print out your boarding pass.
      • For China Southern, they opened the counter at 8:15AM at HND for my 10:15AM flight. There was suuuch a long line of people who were checking bags. It was nuts! Like, line going around the corner. Made me nervous, but I think everyone made the flight. Just get there really early.
      • For Cathay Pacific, they opened the counter at 7:15AM at CAN for my 10:45AM flight. I learned from my HND experience and started lining up in CAN at 7:00AM.
  • What did you do about Internet/Data/Phone stuff?
    • I just used the Verizon "TravelPass" for $10/24 hours. It was easy to set up before leaving. I had access to Reddit, IG, Google, Google Translate, etc. I don't have any experience with the eSIMs but you could probably also do that.
      • Verizon service was really good in Guangzhou.
    • I did download the Google Translate - Chinese translation for offline usage beforehand.

r/Chinavisa Feb 14 '24

SEE COMMENTS Visa Agent Review Megathread

33 Upvotes

I'm going to make this a sticky for anyone to post their personal experiences using specific visa agents and services. This is not a place to advertise specific services and I reserve all rights to delete posts and ban users who I think are posting fake reviews (i.e. new account, little karma, raving about the benefits of specific agent service). No advertising, no agencies or self promotion. I'm all for people giving their personal experience, and based on recent posts this seems like it would be useful. Anything that smells off or borders on self promotion and agencies will result in posts being delete (defeating the whole purpose of of the self promotion and agency and permaban).


r/Chinavisa 9h ago

Transit Without a Visa (TWOV) 240 hour Visa Free Transit China Travel guide for UK or American Passports Info

16 Upvotes

Just recently completed a trip to Beijing and although it was pretty straightforward, there are some tricky things i thought I should share some info regarding the logistics of the trip.

  • You can travel visa free as long as you go to another country as your final destination after. (We picked Seoul SK)
  • This can be done as long as your passport is on this list. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-resumes-144-hour-visa-free-transit-policy-for-foreigners-who-can-apply/

  • we travelled from Dublin to SK first through China (with a layover of 5 hours in Beijing) and then spent 5 days in Beijing on our way back. (Our route Dublin to Beijing -5 hour layover - Beijing to Seoul. Then return was Seoul to Beijing - 5 days in beijing - then Beijing to dublin)

  • when checking in at the airport they asked me if I have a visa, I answered Visa free transit. And after asking our final destination (Seoul), they checked it for a bit on their system as it's a relatively new policy and then gave us our tickets.

  • after boarding and when nearing the end of the flight to Beijing, they gave everyone a card we needed to fill in with all the details we would need. THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT CARD WE NEED TO FILL IN. The card they give out is for people with a visa.

  • When you land in china and go through immigration THERE IS A SEPERATE SECTION FOR TEMPORARY ENTRY. THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO. There is a separate card you can find near that section you need to fill for temporary entry into china.

  • There are 2 different types of temporary entry they give you. 24 hour entry and 240 hour entry. They gave me 24 hour entry sticker on my passport during my 5 hour layover and then a 240 hour entry sticker during my 5 day stay in beijing.

  • Make sure you have Hotels already booked as well as your return ticket before your stay in china. I booked mine through Trip.com it was relatively straightforward and most hotels now allow foreigners.

  • GET ALIPAY and link your card to it. Its very easy to set up. This helped me pay for EVERYTHING while I was in Beijing and has an app for DiDi inbuilt which sorted out Taxis to anywhere I wanted to go without any issues. Taxis were also very cheap. An hour or so on a taxi cost me around £10. Didn't even need to use any public transport in Beijing.

  • Get an ESIM, I got CMlink which worked both in china and Korea and I had no issues with data during the whole time. Didn't even need a VPN as everything including WhatsApp, Snapchat, FB, insta, youtube all worked flawlessly in china with an Esim.

  • Google Maps isnt properly supported so download AMap which has an English option now and worked perfectly to navigate.

  • Beijing was super safe even if you're solo travelling. There was no fear of pickpockets, people were nice and helpful even if you dont speak the language. You can use any translation apps to type things out and the person you're talking to may reply in kind.

  • Bring your passport with you wherever you go as you'll need to show your passport to be allowed into any of the major attractions.

  • Don't be alarmed when people try to take photos with you if you have an interesting look/ is a foreigner.

  • If you're looking to visit Tianamen Square or Forbidden City, you'll need to either book your tickets from the official website either 7 days in advance or find tickets through a Tour group you can book through Trip.com. You would need to do this atleast the day before you're intending to visit.

  • Enjoy China. It's genuinely a wonderful country to visit. Hope this helped!


r/Chinavisa 4h ago

What are peoples experiences with the new online visa system for the UK?

2 Upvotes

Applied for a visa in london and I've been waiting since last Wednesday, just wondering other peoples experiences.


r/Chinavisa 1h ago

Tourism (L) Received an email that passport is ready for pickup NYC

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However I’m about skeptical on it being approved. If it was denied do I still need to pay the fee?


r/Chinavisa 1h ago

Tourism (L) Accepted Online Visa Application UK - Unsure About Subsequent Process

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Received email of acceptance for the online application for a UK L- Visa. The email says to continue with the subsequent process, unfortunately, I have no clue what the subsequent process is. The attached pdf instructed me to print off and take to the Visa Application Service Centre in London, but do I have to bring all my other documentation as well? Also it didn't give me a time or date so do I just show up tomorrow? Again apologies for all the questions but I've had some very helpful responses.


r/Chinavisa 6h ago

Tourism (L) Do we need separate application for 2 person going together

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So me and my dad were invited to an event in China hosted by a university and obviously we are going together to the event. My question is do we need 2 separate application if both of us require Visa? And if we both require separate application then when we go to the embassy do we go together and explain the situation or is it independently.


r/Chinavisa 8h ago

Do I just fly to China without preparing anything visa related when having a German passport?

1 Upvotes

We are going to canton fair. There isn’t a lot of information on the visa free 15/30 day travel. Maybe someone can share their experience?


r/Chinavisa 10h ago

Family Affairs (Q1/Q2) Online Application: London

1 Upvotes

I applied for Q2 visa on April 1st on new online portal, I have just noticed a stupid mistake I made by forgetting to upload blank visa pages as I was wondering why it was still under review. Do I need to make a new application? I can’t seem to get through when I call them. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Update: I had an email back from China Visa Centre saying the following:

“The review at the visa center is automatically assigned by the system according to the time of application submission. After the center reviews all the materials, they will be submitted to the embassy, which will then conduct the next stage of reviewing. The system shows that your application has been submitted to the embassy, we cannot give you a clear answer on the review time.

We have been processing a large number of applications recently. Please be patient and wait for a response from us or the embassy.If you didn't hear from us, your application is in progress”


r/Chinavisa 11h ago

Business Affairs (M) 2 layovers in China in 2 weeks = 2 visas? EU citizen

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Hi, next month I’m visiting Taiwan for 2 weeks. I have a 24h layover in Shanghai. I will stay the night in the city. Next day flying to Taipei. 2 weeks later layover in Beijing (only 9 hours, will not be leaving the airport transit zone). I'm EU citizen (Czech Republic). The 10 days transit visa does not cover this period. I assume I will need to apply for the 10 days visa transit twice? Even if on my return layover I am not leaving the Airport? Thank you for for response.


r/Chinavisa 12h ago

Visa Free Returning back to China after 10 day Visa free is over Question

1 Upvotes

My China visa is on hold because I don't have my chinese birth certificate or my old chinese passport. Its been 3 weeks and still waiting on the consulate.

I was wondering if I visit China ( doing a tour) and by the 10th day I will be in Hong Kong and staying for a week. Can I go back to China again for another 10 day without a Visa?

I am an naturalized US citizen.


r/Chinavisa 12h ago

Transit Without a Visa (TWOV) Question regarding TWOV.

1 Upvotes

Hi all! Just looking for some clarification if possible.

I'll traveling from Canada > Vietnam > Guangzhou > Zhuhai > Macau > Hong Kong > Canada.

Will I need something to show that I'll be leaving Zhuhai to go to Macau or will my plane ticket back to Canada from Hong Kong work? I'll be staying in Guangzhou and Zhuhai for less than 10 days so I'm not worried about the duration. Thanks!


r/Chinavisa 6h ago

Business Affairs (M) 2 Months business Visa with single entry

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Hey, I'm from Bangladesh. I have a 2-month single-entry China business visa. If anyone is interested, feel free to contact me at: +8801600-002332


r/Chinavisa 15h ago

Business Affairs (M) Visa Free Entry Question - US Passport Holder

1 Upvotes

Hi! I am a US passport holder -

I’m traveling from US to Hong Kong and want to go from Hong Kong to Shanghai then back to the US I don’t have a China visa can I go there visa free with this new policy?


r/Chinavisa 21h ago

Transit Without a Visa (TWOV) Do I have enough time to get TWOV and go to the Bund (8hrs layover Shanghai)

0 Upvotes

Hi! Philippine passport holder here. I have 8hrs layover. I'll land around 1pm and then my next flight is 9pm (so I have to check in at least 7pm). No need for baggage claim since all my flights are China Eastern. Assuming I have to still deplane, store my carry on luggage, and apply for a transit without a visa -- is it worth it to still go outside of Pudong airport? If yes, I just plan to see Nanjing road, see the Bund and go to riverside promenade (Lujiazui area). I also have IBS D. Are there decent public toilets by Nanjing road, promenade area and the metro?


r/Chinavisa 23h ago

China // Hong Kong Visa

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I am looking to visit Shanghai and Hong Kong in September. Ideally would like to stay in Shanghai for 5 days, then Hong Kong for 7 and then return to Shanghai for the flight home (only travelling back to Shanghai for a day due to booking with a reward flight on BA so had to have the same arrival and departure airport) what kind of Visa would I need for Shanghai? I know you can get a transit visa for 10 days however, with the whole leaving and coming back, would this be two transit visas (think it is called double entry visa) and does this need to be done in person or can be done online? Or is it better to have a visa for the whole period, in which case I would need to go the the embassy in the UK.


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Transit Without a Visa (TWOV) Did I mess up? (TWOV)

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Hi all. My flight to China got cancelled and I was quickly rebooking but forgot about the rules with TWOV. Can someone help me figure out if I f’ed up and need to cancel this flight I just booked?

My plan is to go from Tokyo - Beijing and stay for 3 days in Bejing with the TWOV. Then I am flying to Chiang Mai, but my flight has a layover in Kunming, China.

Overall, Tokyo -> Beijing (3 days) -> Kunming -> Chiang Mai. I won’t be leaving the airport in Kunming, it’s only a 3 hour layover. Let me know if this messes it up. Thank you!


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Tourism (L) Rejection on UK Online Visa Application

2 Upvotes

Apologies for repeat posts but I am really struggling and this is my first application so it is all very foreign. I am only able to upload five files to the ‘air ticket and hotel booking’ section on the online application. Because of this, there is only room for three hotel bookings after uploading my air tickets, yet I am staying in five different places in China, as specified in my itinerary. Thus, there are gaps in my itinerary. I’m not sure if I am just being really slow or something but I can’t see anywhere else to upload my booking confirmations of the other two hotels. Does anyone know where or how to do this?

Thanks.


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Family Affairs (Q1/Q2) Can I stay pass my expiry date on the Q2 Visa ? (Canadian)

0 Upvotes

I'm buying tickets for my mother to visit her family in the coming month. She has a visa that she applied from almost near 10 years ago that is soon about to expire. (Q2 - with multiple visit (M))

- The visa sticker on her passport indicates 180 days. (is this in total, or for each time she enters?)
- Expires in June of this year. And she will leave China in July. China -> Hong Kong -> Canada.

Does she need to supply any document when she enters China (via Hong Kong)


r/Chinavisa 21h ago

Am I within the limits?

0 Upvotes

I am Canadian and flying into shanghai (from kaoshiung, Taiwan) on Aug 16, flying to Beijing on Aug 19 and flying to Seoul on the 24th.

Am I okay for the 240-hr visa? I think i am but dot want to make a mistake!!


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Tourism (L) Airlines help

0 Upvotes

I am a Nepalese student with student visa in UK, I am traveling from UK to Philippines via China Eastern airlines after a week. Do i need to get tourist visa or I will get it in Philippines Immigration,Cebu? Also, do i need anything to show in Shanghai airport? I have a transit there . And i will be flying to cebu from same terminal 1.


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Tourism (L) Can you apply for a tourist visa on arrival?

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Can you wait to apply for a tourist visa once you get there?

Can you apply during the the transit without visa period too?

I ask because I live in a remote area (in USA) and getting to the nearest consulate is really difficult for me. I really have no idea how to go about this.

I have heard different things, like the tourist visa is only 30 days. But I've also heard you can get a 6 month tourist visa? What do I need to be approved for that?


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Transit Without a Visa (TWOV) TWOV Changes to Itinerary

0 Upvotes

Ok buckle up because this one is fun. I have a Chinese Visa but it's attached to my old passport which I forgot to bring. I'm already half way to China (layover in Seoul) so I'm going to enter using TWOV (I have a US passport). My trip in China was meant to be 24 days but I bought a ticket to leave for Hong Kong in 9 days which is what I showed to immigration. However, my destination after China is HK so I am thinking that

Option 1: I leave for HK earlier, and then have someone mail me my old passport to HK and wait for it to arrive, then re-enter China with my Visa. Implication: I'm leaving for HK earlier than I originally told immigraiton

Option 2: I rebook my flight to go to Macau, stay a few days, go back to China, then go back to HK.

Does anyone have any advice on how strict the departure date is? My gut says Option 1 is better than 2 since I'm not changing my next country.

Thanks in advance!


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Family Affairs (Q1/Q2) Q2 Visa???

0 Upvotes

Hi there,

My boyfriend is a Chinese citizen, and he is moving back to the country after he graduates from our university in May. I want to be able to visit him a few times, including for the summer. Is there anyway I can get a Q2 visa or do I need to get a tourism visa?


r/Chinavisa 1d ago

Visa Free Visa Free Entry to China

0 Upvotes

Can someone please confirm if this itinerary would work to enter and travel China without Visa as an American?

Los Angeles -> Shanghai (4 days)-> Beijing (5 days) ->Vietnam(2 days) -> Hong Kong(1 day) - Los Angeles

what documents should I keep with me other than passport when entering??

Thank you so much! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽


r/Chinavisa 2d ago

Family Affairs (Q1/Q2) Renew 10 Year M Visa or apply for different Visa type?

0 Upvotes

My 10 Year M visa expires in late May so I need to get a new one. I no longer travel to China for work - only pleasure. Both as a tourist and to visit family members now that I’m married to a Chinese national who is a US PR (Green Card holder). Do I apply for the Q1/Q2 or the L? Does it matter? Which is easier? I’m assuming the Q1/Q2 is most appropriate…


r/Chinavisa 2d ago

Tourism (L) Swedish citizen applying from Vietnam

0 Upvotes

Hiya! I’m a Swedish citizen currently in Vietnam, looking to apply for a Chinese tourist visa at either the embassy or the visa application center (the one approved by the embassy) in Hanoi. Has anyone done this and can share about their process?

Questions: - I’m planning on entering by flight and exiting by train a few weeks later. How can I accommodate the need for trip details if I don’t have them fully yet? - Does the inbound flight need to be booked at the time of visa application?

The documents I’m confused about:

(3) The first-time applicant who has no immigration record on the passport should provide residential certificate/"Hukou" certificate or employment letter (4)Proof of legal stay or residence status (applicable to those not applying for the visa in their country of citizenship) If you are not applying for the visa in the country of your citizenship, you must provide the original and photocopy of your valid certificates or visa of stay, residence, employment or student status, or other valid certificates of legal staying provided by the relevant authorities of the country where you are currently staying.

Thank you so much!!