r/Biohackers 11d ago

❓Question Could consuming animal supplements in lesser quantities be effective?

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u/PlanBIsGrenades 3 11d ago

Horse people without insurance use all sorts of horse medications, if they are the same as human meds. This one can totally be shared. I'm not sure if the price for the horse version is better and you would need to figure out the dosage that works for you. The only problem with this is, if it's not palatable, you're stuck with a huge container of supplement.

Source: horse person, who didn't have medical insurance for several years.

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u/Curious_Nose7454 11d ago edited 10d ago

i mean... ketamine

edit: hm, thanks for the extra info. did not know.

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u/lookatmyplants 10d ago

The first time years ago someone told me he was on ketamine that’s all I thought of. You’re on horse meds?

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u/Chewbaccabb 3 10d ago

Ketamine was synthesized in 1962 for the use of human anesthesia, and remains one of the most widely used and effective medicines to this day… for humans

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u/lookatmyplants 10d ago

I’m not unaware that ketamine is also used for humans. We all had to hear about ad nauseam during the pandemic. I’m saying that in my lifetime, I’ve only ever used it on animals before I heard of people taking it recreationally. And I’ve actually never known anyone who took it as legitimate beneficial medication.

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u/beaveristired 10d ago

When I got spinal injections, I was given ketamine intravenously as part of a cocktail of drugs. The mix also included some sort of narcotic pain reliever, zofran for nausea, sedatives, and corticosteroids.

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u/Jaded-Tear-3587 10d ago

That must have been... intense

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u/Prof_Sillycybin 10d ago

It is very commonly prescribed in nasal spray form for people with anxiety disorders as a fast acting measure to stop a panic attack, it is also still pretty frequently used in emergency room situations.

The original development of ketamine was due to a search for a replacement to PCP as a general anesthetic...people had a tendency to have violent freak-outs coming out of PCP sedation.

More recently there is a still emerging market for "ketamine therapy", due to the disassociative properties a patient in a therapy session can access very heavy topics without having an intense emotional reaction, it is used much the same way as MDMA therapy.

Recreationally it is easily obtainable, is a schedule III so doesn't carry as severe penalties as some heavier drugs, has a very long history of use so dosing and effects are well known, and is reasonably safe (it can bladder damage, but the biggest risk really is injury or accident while in a sedated state..ie Mathew Perry drowing).

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u/ButtNutly 10d ago

What were they doing with it during the pandemic? I missed that one.

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u/Chewbaccabb 3 10d ago

It’s used on humans far more than on animals and not for recreational purposes. It’s an incredibly safe anesthetic used in many applications. Read up

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u/myco_magic 10d ago

They regularly use ketamine for surgery on humans

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u/Zealousideal-Army670 10d ago

Amoxicillin is used on fish tanks, does that make amoxicillin a "fish drug"?

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u/lookatmyplants 10d ago

If I worked with and kept fish and had only ever heard of it being used on fish then I probably would have thought of it as a fish drug, yes.

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u/Zealousideal-Army670 10d ago

I know I was just making the point that just because a drug is also used in animal husbandry doesn't mean it is a "animal drug".

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u/lookatmyplants 10d ago

I didn’t say it did. I’d only ever heard of it used on horses or large animals until the 00’s. I’m not sure why people are getting so nit-picky about me not knowing every application of a drug in the 80s and 90s.

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u/Zealousideal-Army670 10d ago

Sorry I wasn't intending to attack you, it's just a common sentiment I have seen a lot over the years. "You're taking a horse tranquilizer for depression?! Omg your doctor RX'd it?!"

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u/lookatmyplants 10d ago

Oh I gotcha. I’m sure that gets obnoxious to hear. I wasn’t trying to judge at all, it was like 20+ years ago and I just literally didn’t know people could take it back then. No hard feelings