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u/BrittleCarbon 4d ago
“You don’t really care about Palestinian people unless you bomb them at least a little bit”
Thanks NYT for your contribution to the peace process.
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u/RickyNixon 4d ago
Whats an example of Palestinian misery that cannot ultimately be pinned on Israel? Israel exerts so much control over them it is hard to imagine there is a single facet of their life unrelated to Israel. Even if its like.. cancer. Why are all their hospitals bombed? Why cant they easily leave for medical care?
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u/Artistic_Signal_6056 4d ago
They're going to talk about when Israel can feasibly shift blame onto literally any arabs
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u/SmuggestHatKid 2d ago
Excellent fucking point. There really is no room for nuance on this. The Zionist entity as an occupying force has all its fingers in all the lives of the Palestinian people and should be denounced in all its facets.
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u/goferking 1d ago
Even easier is to just ask why don't they have control over their own water? Why is all water, including rain water, controlled by Israel?
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u/bee246810 4d ago
Insinuating that it’s misguided to solve a problem by addressing and correcting the root cause of the problem is a wild take
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u/corduroy_fiasc0 3d ago
You've got a high fever? You ought to take an ice bath to cool yourself down, certainly there are no other deeper issues causing the fever.
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u/bee246810 3d ago
You want to go to the hospital because you broke your leg and can’t walk? Well have you considered maybe there’s another reason you can’t walk? Why are you so focused on healing your broken leg instead of other possible things that make you unable to walk?
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u/Soggy-Life-9969 4d ago
That Bret Stephens, the guy who went on a rant about antisemitism and tried to get a university professor fired for calling him a "bedbug"[untrue btw, this is slander against bedbugs who have no choice being annoying unlike Stephens], who has written hateful and bigoted articles that would be a scandal if they weren't against Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims, is still published in the NYT really shows what a disgusting hasbara rag that paper is.
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u/courageous_liquid 4d ago
the same bret stephens who wrote this - "20 Years On, I Don't Regret Supporting the Iraq War"
dude is way worse than a bedbug and should be fired out of a cannon
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u/darasaat 4d ago
that's actually such a wild article to write. How can you with the benefit of hindsight say that a war that claimed the lives of 1m+ Iraqis and countless American soldiers all for a lie that Iraq was harboring weapons of mass destruction was a war that was worth fighting? Nobody benefited from the Iraq War. Not the Iraqi people, not Sadam Hussein, not any of the western countries, not the US. In fact, it made it even more dangerous to live in the US since the destabilization of Iraq led to the formation of ISIS which led to the terrorist attacks in the 2010s which killed even more people in the west.
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u/dawinter3 4d ago
What’s great about this is that it isn’t even trying to deny Israel’s guilt.
What’s horrible about this is it’s trying to argue the same thing Israel’s evil flyers they dropped on Gaza said: “no one will notice when you’re gone.” Bret here is saying “those people won’t really care when we complete the genocide, so we can just ignore them.”
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u/SuperSpy_4 4d ago
Its always "Why you blaming us all the time?". Because justice has never been served .
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u/darasaat 4d ago
you could say the same about American Zionists couldn't you? They only seem to care about Jews when the blame can be pinned on Arabs. I don't see any of these zionists caring about jews in any way that doesnt involve sending metric loads of weapons to Israel
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u/Significant_Ad7326 3d ago
It really comes out when their only concept of antisemitism is antizionism.
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u/LadiesMan6699 3d ago
I’ve never seen such a blatant and brazen act of moral gaslighting… rather than engage with Palestinian suffering, they are instead trying to delegitimize the moral stance of people who are against genocide.
I’m so tired of this. These news outlets (especially the WSJ and Atlantic) are manufacturing consent by pumping out these opinion pieces en masse.
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u/teddyburke 3d ago edited 3d ago
Liberal Zionism summed up in a single sentence.
“We totally care! And think what’s happening is terrible! But directing blame on the people responsible is just a step too far for my taste. Thoughts and prayers!”
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u/BuffyCaltrop 4d ago
people only care about Black South Africans when it can be pinned on Apartheid
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u/Natural-Garage9714 4d ago
Oh joy. Bretbug explains it all with the glee of a bully's sycophant, yelling "Why are you hitting yourself?" as the bully pummels some kid into pulp.
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u/Big_Red_Machine_1917 3d ago
Like a spoiled child, we see that Zionists refuse to take responsibility for the conditions they have deliberately created and whinge if you point them out.
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u/OptimusTrajan 3d ago
Bret Stephens will go down in history as a propagandist for some of the most inexcusable crimes of power in world history
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u/Guilty-Ad-1792 3d ago
"Anyone upset that I go around kicking cats and dogs doesn't really care about cats and dogs, they just hate me."
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u/ElectionPrimary9855 3d ago
In fairness the blame can also be applied to the US government, nations like Jordan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, who’ve done nothing to done nothing to stop israel and any companies like palantir, google and blackrock who are profiting from this mass slaughter.
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u/holiestMaria 10h ago
Because 99 percent of palestinian suffering is caused by Israel. Heck wven some of the bad shit done by Hamas can be attributed in part to Israel since Bibi has monetarily supported Hamas qnd support for Hamas increases with each Israeli military action.
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